08-12-2002 23:44									#991
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Why doesn't Germany just play, and then we can solve this problem as we go along?

	09-12-2002 06:04									#992
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I knew that, but online meetings are still a b*tch, at least for me. It just seemed more convenient to do it all now while you have the cheat powers at your disposal, but of course it's you guys' call.

	09-12-2002 14:10									#993
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Yaroslav will be finished real soon (Beta is ready) with the new version of his Civdip programm, which will allow to trade cities as well (but not units, though)! This can make things much easier because meeting online wouldn't be necessary then!

	10-12-2002 03:23									#994
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So are we continuing? El, are you going to take Germany or should we give it over to Choke?

*I want to pass the first AOW PBEM again *

	10-12-2002 12:44									#995
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Yes please, let's go on!! I haven't been through all the boring time trying to modernize Turkey (which was NOT easy! and isn't over yet... ) just to let the game fall asleep now!!

	10-12-2002 17:12									#996
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Is the problem that El wants his cities all now? I would probably be ok with giving Germany all her cities next turn - all I ask for is a turn's grace, as I'd need to re-home some of my units built in my German territories.

	10-12-2002 20:15									#997
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OK, I expect someone will tell me when it's my turn, because I'm not sure I understand where we stand right now...

	11-12-2002 00:17									#998
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Nah, give it to choke.

	11-12-2002 03:27									#999
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OK, but we don't give all the cities Germany right away.

Choke: where is easiest to contact you? PM, email...?

	11-12-2002 07:23									#1000
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He's on AIM and MSN a lot, eyechokeu and I Choke You respectively.

	12-12-2002 03:21									#1001
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Which one is which? neither show up on MSN

	12-12-2002 04:03									#1002
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quote: Originally posted by Darius871 He's on AIM and MSN a lot, eyechokeu and I Choke You respectively.

Anyway he's actually been gone for a few days, so I don't know if he can play anyway.

	12-12-2002 04:58									#1003
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well, I need the email address, because the name won't work.

	12-12-2002 05:29									#1004
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ttgmccredie@hotmail.com

	12-12-2002 13:39									#1005
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Yay!!! 1004 posts!

	13-12-2002 03:05									#1007
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I have one way of responding to that...

	13-12-2002 03:27									#1008
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So what's going on at this point? I feel we're kind of stuck for no reason. I think El should have been aware of everything that we said LONG ago, since none of it was new. But regardless, let's get on with it.
And perhaps we should try JMarks, since he came in second in our election for Chancellor.

	13-12-2002 04:30									#1009
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Yes I agree, Jmarks. Choke has gone MIA.

	14-12-2002 19:41									#1010
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OK, just realized this as I was editing the units for the alt version of AoW int he other PBEM: does everyone in this PBEM have a units and rules file which includes 2 submarines which Case added in? If not, it could pose some interesting side effects down the road...

Also, Choke said he can't play in a lot of PBEMs he is in. So maybe JMarks could take over as Kirk said? Please. i don't want this game to stagnate: we had such a good pace before

	15-12-2002 00:04									#1011
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I thought we were using the rules with the increased ship range, but w/o submarines, since there was no consensus on that, as I understood.

I agree, I'd like to get this going again too, we had such a good rhythm a while back

	15-12-2002 03:07									#1012
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Hehe, I'll fix that once the others chime in

	15-12-2002 03:26									#1013
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quote: Originally posted by JamesJKirk I thought we were using the rules with the increased ship range, but w/o submarines, since there was no consensus on that, as I understood.

Yeah, that's right. Whose turn is it BTW?

	15-12-2002 03:36									#1014
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Germany's?

	15-12-2002 03:42									#1015
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Yes, we've been waiting for a German player to take up the reins. Choke can't do it and El doesn't want to.

	16-12-2002 14:33									#1016
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I'm playing without submarines as well!

Well, I've been playing without a navy for half of the game as well...

	17-12-2002 04:11									#1017
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I'm going to post a thread for a German player: this is ridiculous!

	17-12-2002 11:13									#1018
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Since I just shook off 8 Bonoparte games like rats off my neck (no offense guys ), I've got the time to take Germany. There's only one problem: when I got into the files here naturally I was curious as to how this game was going so I looked into everybody's countries. I doubt it'll make much of a difference in the survival of my 6 cities, but if anyone thinks it's unfair I'll understand.

Last edited by Darius871 on 19-12-2002 at 19:26

	17-12-2002 12:54									#1019
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Yes, well, if you start selling state secrets to other countries you can kiss even those paltry six cities goodbye

But seriously, I don't have a problem with you joining as Germany, as long as you keep whatever you saw to yourself.

	17-12-2002 14:24									#1020
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Ditto, welcome aboard