29-01-2002 01:09									#91
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quote: Who knows, I might even be Somalian. I take it that you have been there. Please MtG, tell me (from your AMERICAN point of view, that is) what Somalia is like.

IIRC, MtG was in the US Army, and served in Somalia during that time. I'd think he know's a bit about it, eh?

	29-01-2002 01:20									#92
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quote: I honestly feel sorry for Dom, having to go through life as a pathetic, hateful, idiotic piece of human trash.

Another wise comment from an AMERICAN Apolytoner who knows me so well they are absolutely certain that I'm human trash. Congratulations, you guys prove once again that you are not capable of conducting an intelligent argument.

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	29-01-2002 01:22									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Dominikos Another wise comment from an AMERICAN Apolytoner who knows me so well they are absolutely certain that I'm human trash. Congratulations, you guys prove once again that you are not capable of conducting an intelligent argument. ------------------

Exactly what have you contributed? Besides, at least the others post in the right thread.

	29-01-2002 01:31									#94
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quote: cheering at soldiers getting killed?

One American soldier is killed in Afghanistan. The news is broadcast worldwide so that everyone gets to hear about it. His name is cried out loud on television, a huge scene is made of it! WOW! Another worthless piece of trash brought to you by CNN! Is that supposed to make me feel sorry for him!?

Who are you to say that Somalis dragging the bodies of dead American soldiers is worse than American bombs killing thousands of innocents.

When the Americans claim its collateral damage, it makes it allright? All the Americans here who agree with this mode of thinking are no better than the naive Iraqis who cheer for Saddam.

MtG, I honestly feel sorry for you. Just a soldier who was dragged along to go where his country (government) wanted him to. Pity.
And he believed he was doing the right thing.

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	29-01-2002 01:34									#95
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Plus, I've never seen a leftist analisys of the Somolia adventure that really satisified me.

Why do I get the feeling that "leftish"="disagree with the mainstream political enterpretation" or "disagree with everything the US does". If that is a correct interpretation then I must say I don't think that world view is very mature...

	29-01-2002 01:35									#96
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quote: Exactly what have you contributed?

I am responding to vulgar comments made about me.

quote: Besides, at least the others post in the right thread.

Have you nothing better to do than criticize me for an irrelevent mistake? You remind me of those who think they can win the argument by pointing out the other side's spelling mistakes. We're all human, we all make mistakes, Mr. Perfect.

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	29-01-2002 01:35									#97
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No, MarkL/Spink aren't that tasteless.

We obviously haven't been reading the same threads, Shi. I will admit though that his last few posts are bordering on the pedantic. Spink usually has more flair.

	29-01-2002 01:40									#98
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Dominikos vs. The American Apolytoners.

I'm beginning to enjoy this.

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	29-01-2002 01:46									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Dominikos I'm beginning to enjoy this.

I might be able to as well if you'd exhibit the flair and panache that was exhibited on page 3 and not let your posts slide like they have been so far on page 4.

	29-01-2002 01:49									#100
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The only flair Spink has is that of a sphinter opening and closing.




Spinkter?


Nah, I'm not that childish.

	29-01-2002 01:56									#101
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Dom,
You must be one dumb son-of-a-***** or twelve years old. One thing you learn about MTG, that he can discuss taxes, politics, sports or world affairs with intellect on the subject, not just shooting off his mouth, like you, cause you have a hair up your ass about Americans. It is funny how cowards like you never want us or think you need us until somebody puts a Saddam on your border and you start crying for the USA to come out and save your ass with our soldiers and military but once the deed is done you go back to hating us. I am truly believing the USA should become isolationists and bring all our food, money and military home and when something goes wrong, all you can go screw yourself and when somebody attacks us we will just annihilate the problem and go back home and save billions to the taxpayers.
You can go **** yourself repeatedly.

	29-01-2002 01:57									#102
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Sometimes you really disturb me che.

	29-01-2002 02:00									#103
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant until somebody puts a Saddam on your

Yeah, but usually that's us.

	29-01-2002 02:01									#104
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Sometimes you really disturb me che.

Sorry, DD, it had to be said.

	29-01-2002 02:09									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Dominikos I am responding to vulgar comments made about me. Have you nothing better to do than criticize me for an irrelevent mistake? You remind me of those who think they can win the argument by pointing out the other side's spelling mistakes. We're all human, we all make mistakes, Mr. Perfect. ------------------

There is no argument here except in your head. It's easy to troll about something as emotional as this. You don't really see the position MTG or anyone that has been involved in the situation like this feels. The only person that has made this USA against The world is you. Even MTG stated that the US ****ed up many things in response to Somalia. Your response is to say you would sit and eat popcorn. Thats not trolling, its showing the attitude of a six year old. Once again, the only arguments are in your own little world. I'm not mad at you. I feel sorry for you.

	29-01-2002 02:14									#106
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One of the things I learned over the weekend is that part of the problem between the US and the locals was cultural. Apparently, in Somolia it is considered a grave insult to show someone the bottom of your foot. It is the equivalent of flipping someone the bird. Now, all these soldiers flying around in choppers with their feet hanging out are basically flipping off all of Mogadishu. Completely unintentional on our part, but it seriously pissed off the locals, who were just as unaware that we didn't know.

That's just one little thing.

	29-01-2002 02:22									#107
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Dom got me so pissed I forgot to mention the movie. I went to it on Friday, damn good movie with some good humor. The funniest part is the deaf guy part, but that is about as funny as the movie gets, great job by Brukheimer but what would expect from the guy who brought you Top Gun, Armageddon, Bad Boys, Pearl Harbor, and the hit series CSI.

The only thing I think the General could have done is get the 10th Mountain division in there sooner to help out, but I understand the 10th was under Paki control which is bullshit to begin with, I don't know if the General could have gotton the 10th Division in there sooner by negociating with the Paki General but that is the only thing I could see that he could have tried harder in, right after the first Black Hawk went down.

Did they recover all the bodies of the Special Forces?

	29-01-2002 02:22									#108
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Also you shouldn't raise your eyebrows when in Japan. It is considered an insult.

Never do that

	29-01-2002 02:27									#109
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory I feel bad for those rangers who got abandoned up in there.

Why? Soldiers going into combat know the risks. It is their job to take these risks. While it is all very unfortunate (it is not nice when anyone dies - including the Somalis) you shouldn't feel bad about it. They were paid to die. **** happens.

And anyway, haven't we seen enough of these sort of movies already?

	29-01-2002 02:30									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh Why?

Perhaps it is becuase they were ill-equiped to carry out an ill-advised peacekeeping mission.

quote: And anyway, haven't we seen enough of these sort of movies already?

What sort of movie do you think this is?

	29-01-2002 02:34									#111
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc What sort of movie do you think this is?

This sort: http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/m...black_hawk.html

Haven't seen it - not sure if I can be bothered.

I saw 'Monsoon Wedding' the other night. I really enjoyed it much more than I was expecting. It was funny but strangely touching at the same time. Anyone else seen it?

	29-01-2002 02:38									#112
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh This sort: http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/m...black_hawk.html

That didn't answer the question I asked, RJ. I've seen the movie and don't need to read a review of it.

	29-01-2002 02:41									#113
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RJ: Even though they've accepted the risks, you can still feel bad for them. Thinking that American blood is valuable is no vice.

	29-01-2002 02:43									#114
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Defiant, another proud American.

quote: You must be one dumb son-of-a-***** or twelve years old.

No my dear friend, I think you are twelve years old, considering of course, the primitive language that you use. You just can't prevent yourself from using an f-word, can you?

Americans!

You men come in waves! I wonder how many more of you will jump on the bandwagon and draw your little blasters. Made in America.

quote: It is funny how cowards like you never want us or think you need us until somebody puts a Saddam on your border and you start crying for the USA to come out and save your ass with our soldiers and military but once the deed is done you go back to hating us.

Oh, Defiant, how you hate the rest of the world and see other countries as cowards.

The Saddams of the world that America created, along with all the Bin Ladens. Such double sided policy. The United States helps the Kurds in Iraq because Saddam is killing them, but in Turkey the United States is against the Kurds because they are the terrorists.

quote: Your response is to say you would sit and eat popcorn.

You better believe it! I found the popcorn a bit funny. If you think it's too strong, you don't have to read it. Go bury your head in a pillow and cry over Sept 11. It certainly paled in comparison to what some of the Americans here have posted about other countries and peoples of the world.

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	29-01-2002 02:53									#115
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Hmm... There's gotta be a point somewhere in that vitriol. I can't pick it out, though. Can somebody help me?

	29-01-2002 02:53									#116
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Yea Dom,
We create all the bad guys in the world, we have that much power.
I didn't say countries are cowards, only you.

Bin Laden, that's nice, we help him to take our Russia a mutual enemy of the time and then we leave, we have no obligation to rebuild that country, they could be speaking Russia right now. If we would have stayed and rebuilt that country and we would be regarded as imperialists, you see, it is a no win situation. He really hates us for having a presence in Saudi, once again, USA please come in and take out the evil Saddam so that Saudi doesn't become the next Kuwait with your military and boys to die so we can keep selling you oil and become even richer and oh yea when you are done get your imperialist ass off our country.
That is such bullshit, Iraq, Kuwait and to some extent Saudi should be subject of the United States.
Before you open your trap you should look at it from our point of view.

	29-01-2002 03:00									#117
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Hmm... There's gotta be a point somewhere in that vitriol. I can't pick it out, though. Can somebody help me?

Sure. The point Dom is making is that the US has no reservations in supporting passively the genocide of a people by a regime if it suits her interests while on the same time helping the very same people in overthrowing another regime which doesn't suit her interests.

If you need anything else I'll be here

	29-01-2002 03:03									#118
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The point Dom is making is that the US has no reservations in supporting passively the genocide of a people by a regime if it suits her interests while on the same time helping the very same people in overthrowing another regime which doesn't suit her interests.

You act as if that there is something wrong with that.

	29-01-2002 03:03									#119
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Paik,
I am assuming you are regarding ALL KURDS as terrorists or could it be some KURDS are terroritst and Turkey is hunting them down, I am sure they are not attacking all 20 million of them of which the vast majority we are trying to defend against Saddam.

	29-01-2002 03:05									#120
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No,no,no. The turks wipe out whole kurdish villages. BTW the line between terrorism and not terrorism is very thin here.