29-01-2002 03:06									#121
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc You act as if that there is something wrong with that.

So, following the same logic, there is nothing wrong for a country or a person to support Al Qaeda if it is in her best interest.

	29-01-2002 03:07									#122
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I understand the line is very thin one coutries terrorist is another countries freedom fighter but what real proof of whole villages are being wiped out, I don't condone that of coarse but real proof is needed and no genocide is acceptable at any level.

	29-01-2002 03:10									#123
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Ah I see. A typical eurocommie backbencher. Thanks, paiktis.

	29-01-2002 03:10									#124
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 So, following the same logic, there is nothing wrong for a country or a person to support Al Qaeda if it is in her best interest.

Of course. Provided that they are willing to pay the consequences of such a decision.

quote: BTW the line between terrorism and not terrorism is very thin here.

Spoken like a true Sophist. Are they still around in Greece anyway?

	29-01-2002 03:11									#125
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There is ample proof. I just can't be arsed to look for it now.

Check NY Times, Le Monde etc etc

It is not a genocide but it is a small scale intimidation - massacre campain. That's one of the reasons Turkey can't enter the EU for example. (there are many more).

btw the 20 millions of kurds live inside Turkey. And yes, compared to Iraqi kurds they are better off. But that just means they are killed with less frequency.

	29-01-2002 03:13									#126
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Ah I see. A typical eurocommie backbencher. Thanks, paiktis.

Sure DanS. If it is not pro-american it's got to be commie and we can't be arsed to bother.

	29-01-2002 03:14									#127
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Of course. Provided that they are willing to pay the consequences of such a decision.

That goes without saying.

quote: Spoken like a true Sophist. Are they still around in Greece anyway?

Sophists, commies whatever if it's not pro-american it's got to be a shophistry

	29-01-2002 03:21									#128
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"If it is not pro-american it's got to be commie and we can't be arsed to bother."

There are assorted non-commie anti-Americans that you need to include in the "I can't be bothered" category. Don't overgeneralize!

Now where's my bag of popcorn? I've got the evening news to watch! Who are we wrongly killing today?

	29-01-2002 03:25									#129
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Sophists, commies whatever if it's not pro-american it's got to be a shophistry

I see that you're trying to follow in the footsteps of Gorgias. You have a ways to go before you reach that level though.

	29-01-2002 03:27									#130
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Likewise if you inspire to reach the heights of Plato's bashing of the sophists


Actually I'd classify my self in this thread as a pure platonic. For there is not a shred of moral relativism in my reasoning.

	29-01-2002 04:02									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Paik, I am assuming you are regarding ALL KURDS as terrorists or could it be some KURDS are terroritst and Turkey is hunting them down, I am sure they are not attacking all 20 million of them of which the vast majority we are trying to defend against Saddam.

3/4s of all Kurds live in Turkey. In Turkey, Kurds are legally prohibitted from speaking their language, from having names in their language, from flying the Kurdish flag, etc. Over 2,000 Kurdish villages have been destroyed by the Turks. More than 15,000 Kurds have been killed by the Turks (much more). Over one and half million Kurds have been made homeless by the Kurds. These Kurdish "terrorists," are fighting for the right to be treated like human beings and have a state of their own. Unlike the "legitimate" military of the Turks, the Kurds are not waging war against Turkish civilians. Furthermore, the Turks have launched raids against the Kurdish "state" in Northern Iraq (such as it is).

Rather schizophrenic when you consider we are defending that very "state" against the Iraqis. Apparently it's only okay for our allies to attack the Kurds. Of course, we are adamant against recognizing the independence of Iraqi Kurdistan because that would legitimaize the independence struggle of the Turskish Kurds.

BTW, officially, there are no Kurds in Turkey. Officially the Turskih government refers to them as Mountain Turks.

Earlier in this thread I made a statement as to why I hadn't said much in the thread; because I didn't know enough about the Somolia situation to make a statement without making an ass of myself. I suggest you apply that principle to yourself.

	29-01-2002 22:40									#132
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Che,
I made a statement and I still have only YOUR analysis of the situation, again show me proof, it is very easy to speculate, I can just as easily say all 15,000 deaths were terrorist in action but what proof do I have, like you, I just said it, who is really making an ass of themself, I think you.
You are truly a communist aren't you.

	29-01-2002 22:49									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Che, I made a statement and I still have only YOUR analysis of the situation, again show me proof, it is very easy to speculate, I can just as easily say all 15,000 deaths were terrorist in action but what proof do I have, like you, I just said it, who is really making an ass of themself, I think you. You are truly a communist aren't you.

Hmmmm - I think I have heard that somewhere before....

Where could it have been.....?

Lets see. It must have been someone saying they had proof of who committed some terrorist attacks but were unwilling (unable?) to show the evidence, so they acted on it anyway.....

I can't remember - it must have been some commie making an ass of himself...

	29-01-2002 23:00									#134
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Rogan what are you talking about, the US's attack in Afghanistan??????

	30-01-2002 00:39									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh Why? Soldiers going into combat know the risks. It is their job to take these risks.

Because we totally ****in abandoned them......we put our trust in the UN to rescue them...what do they do? 6 hours after request for help the UN morons are still trying to assemble a Malayasian/togo/Pakistani/ every ****in ethnicity rescue force, where they needed shitloads of transalators which costed lives and time...


Not to mention when the moron finally got there, they left behind the Delta force commando's who ran a whole mile to the Soccer Stadium! (Well...they didnt look like Rangers..)


We should of ****in Razed Mogadishu as Powell wanted.....but Clinton was just bluffing to get Durant back.