20-01-2002 11:05									#1
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Have you seen that set up in Cuba? They are keeping the prisoners in what looks like dog kennels.

Imagine if American soldiers were held like that by Taliban. The U.S. media would be screaming. Just one photo of a blind folded and chained U.S. soldier would be enough.

This is really hurting U.S. credibility around the world. We know what is being fought against but one wonders what is being fought for! So much for the human rights of the POWS!

The U.S. btw, is now the only Western country that still claims these prisoners aren't POW's. The U.S. is looking ever more ridiculous claiming otherwise.

	20-01-2002 11:09									#2
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huh

I think amazing restraint is being shown. If it were me, I'd have 'em lined up and break out the m-16s.

	20-01-2002 11:11									#3
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So what you're saying is you would like Al Qaeda to shoot any Americans soldiers they capture

	20-01-2002 11:18									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse So what you're saying is you would like Al Qaeda to shoot any Americans soldiers they capture

They will already, so Al-Quaida prisoners are better off than US prisoners in the hands of terrorists.

BTW, nice troll.

	20-01-2002 11:20									#5
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Glad to see you back in old form Horse. I was thinking you'd grown fond of the nice guy role.

	20-01-2002 11:21									#6
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NO! But it doesn't matter what I want. Reality is what matters.

The Al Queda are not soldiers, they're ****ing terrorists. You think they're gonna be checking Geneva convention rules on how to treat POWs? I don't think so. Remember what happened to the US soldiers captured in Somalia? These *******s have no respect and no honor as soldiers. They are the scum of this planet and they should be goddamned greatful that they are in the custody of a country that has some value for basic human rights.

They ****ing rammed jetplanes into buildings packed with civilians. Yeah, if it were up to me, I'd blow every last one of 'em away.

	20-01-2002 11:21									#7
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Another thing is, what happened to the presumption of innocence? The U.S. claims these people aren't POW's and yet they are being held without any due process as criminal defendants. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

	20-01-2002 11:25									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Another thing is, what happened to the presumption of innocence? The U.S. claims these people aren't POW's and yet they are being held without any due process as criminal defendants. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

Who's gonna stop us?

	20-01-2002 11:28									#9
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Hey Horse those are temporary cells.

The inhumane and tyrannical government of the US was so mean that we actually are building a brand new prison for those guys.

They are also getting, "culturally approved" meals.

	20-01-2002 11:29									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Have you seen that set up in Cuba? They are keeping the prisoners in what looks like dog kennels.

Yes, much better then those dirty caves in afghanistan.

quote: Imagine if American soldiers were held like that by Taliban. The U.S. media would be screaming. Just one photo of a blind folded and chained U.S. soldier would be enough.

Well, we might as well wish for the stars, cause the Talis and El Quida don't take prisoners.

quote: This is really hurting U.S. credibility around the world.

Most of the hand wringers were looking for the door on 9/12, so this is hardly surprising.

quote: We know what is being fought against but one wonders what is being fought for! So much for the human rights of the POWS!

Yes, those evil Americans are holding suicidal Islamics who have shorn to kill an American while in captivity, to show they are the sh1t...

quote: The U.S. btw, is now the only Western country that still claims these prisoners aren't POW's.

USA was also the only nation hit on 9/11, we will decide what's up with the killers of our people.

quote: The U.S. is looking ever more ridiculous claiming otherwise.

In your opinion.

On the troll meter, a solid 7 out of 10, really lacking in substance, been done before, some nice "us aginst them" inferences.
Not bad, but could have been more gut wrenching, didn't have to braek a sweat here.

	20-01-2002 11:34									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Another thing is, what happened to the presumption of innocence?

If they are POWs, as you say, that would end that, now wouldn't it?

quote: The U.S. claims these people aren't POW's and yet they are being held without any due process as criminal defendants.

Who said that?
They get the rights that all prisoners who show hostility get.

quote: YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

Sure we can, haven't you heard?

The USA does what it wants, it's in all the European papers.

	20-01-2002 11:35									#12
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hahahahaha

I'll give it a 6.5 Chris.

So AH, you've got me, Chris, I'm sure MTG will show up along with DinoDoc.

Does that complete your list?

	20-01-2002 11:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse So what you're saying is you would like Al Qaeda to shoot any Americans soldiers they capture

Didja see the pictures of the American pilots in the Gulf War that had their faces pounded on?

Some of those guys looked so weak after being put through some torture. I thought they were going to pass out. Though being tough Americans, they survived it.

	20-01-2002 11:39									#14
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Damn waste of fencing material.

Personally, I think tiger pits would be more appropriate. Preferably in an intertidal zone, to help wash 'em out every high tide.

Those boys are one hell of a lot better off than if we left 'em with their NA hosts.

	20-01-2002 11:41									#15
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Just when I think you've pulled your head out of your ass, AH; you prove it's still firmly lodged in place.

Talk about things you know, and leave it at that.

	20-01-2002 11:45									#16
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Cept for Dino, looks like the gangs all here!

	20-01-2002 11:49									#17
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Send them to





we'll handle them.

	20-01-2002 11:51									#18
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Why doesnt Horsie complain when Serbs beat up 3 US servicemen to a pulp ? Or the way them talib's treated the Aid Workers? Where were you Horsie!? No where to be found.....so in conclusion: This just another pathetic troll not to be taken serouisly.



Btw.....who's going to stop us!? Australia? Cuba?

	20-01-2002 11:52									#19
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"Al Queda?!? Git a rope!"

	20-01-2002 11:53									#20
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Okay now Slowwhand and faded glory show up. What other Americans are not here that are on Horse's list? Bob Dornan is on vacation...

	20-01-2002 11:53									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 Cept for Dino, looks like the gangs all here!

Where the hell is Dino? Got a hot date or something on a Saturday night?

I'm not really here, in fact, I'm just about gone. 91 hours this week.

	20-01-2002 11:54									#22
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Most will probably be put behind bars thru tribunal for 20-30 years. Some may be put to death, if we found they resisted us in anyway. Others will be let go.



Revenge is Swwwwwwwweeet

	20-01-2002 11:55									#23
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Let me gather some former Ameriacan P.O.W.'s, get their input.

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	20-01-2002 11:56									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker "Al Queda?!? Git a rope!"

Yeah, let's bring back that ol US tradition, the Lynch mob!

Hang em high!

Guess this isn't going as well as you hoped, eh horsie?

quote: Where the hell is Dino? Got a hot date or something on a Saturday night? I'm not really here, in fact, I'm just about gone. 91 hours this week.

Maybe the kid does, hope so anyway.

91 hours?

Your outta your mind, Reb.

	20-01-2002 11:57									#25
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Perfect picture Sloww.

MTG has been drinking wheat grass for high endurance.

	20-01-2002 11:57									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Okay now Slowwhand and faded glory show up. What other Americans are not here that are on Horse's list? Bob Dornan is on vacation...

Umm ya I just got back from Applebee's bar and we were yelling at each oher for like an hour over that stupid call with the patriots. Oh ya,then I went too my friends to Sober up a bit. And iver been home for about 30 minutes (whats it too ya ?)


(BTW:It was a damn fumble for christ-sakes !)

	20-01-2002 12:14									#27
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Typical - noone actually answered the question

Would you approve of U.S. POW's being treated like that?

Looks just like the way the North Vietnamese and North Koreans treated your airmen. I now assume you thought that was okay.

	20-01-2002 12:16									#28
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AH forgot to shed his EvC persona and this is what we get.

I dunno guys, a 6.5 is awful charitable.

"Would you approve of U.S. POW's being treated like that?"

You think they'd be treated that well, AH?

	20-01-2002 12:20									#29
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quote: Originally posted by DanS AH forgot to shed his EvC persona and this is what we get.

A horse is a horse of course of course.

quote: I dunno guys, a 6.5 is awful charitable.

Yeah, but he added a mad smiley and follow up reference to both Korea and Viet Nam and everything!

OK, I admit, my 7 was high, but the high score is always thrown out, isn't it?

Horsie, Korea and Viet nam! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

	20-01-2002 12:23									#30
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I know some former POW's of the North Vietnamese.

You can't even begin to compare the treatment they received to the coddling these mother****ers are getting in what is still a temporary facility for the next three months while a permanent facility is being built.

And these self-proclaimed bad boys are not POWs to anyone who counts - they're in that verminous range between mercenaries and terrorists, and are sworn to kill Americans if they get the chance - hardly the type of "typical" security risk that is presented by the average POW.

Considering the temperature range in Cuba, their conditions aren't particularly bad - WTF do you want, wood paneling, air conditioning and stained glass? Mother****ers are lucky they simply didn't get dropped out the rear cargo door midway over the Atlantic - so I guess they must either have some intel value, or we're nice guys after all.