25-01-2002 03:30									#91
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first part: I know most coutnries are like that (if not all) but mor epower = more damage


second part: I was basically trolling faded

	25-01-2002 03:31									#92
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WOW! We have turned completely out of the thread's subject

So what is your opinion on the violation issue?

Shouldn't get public and condemn such actions?

	25-01-2002 03:33									#93
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 who wrote that review an americanski?

Fifth United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems

Look it up yourself. I won't even bother to bring up Zurich in order to spare you some dignity.

	25-01-2002 03:37									#94
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Fifth United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems

Look it up yourself. I won't even bother to bring up Zurich in order to spare you some dignity.


every body knows tha NYC and america in general has much more crime than the EU. You have school shooting for christs sake

You know dinodoc, it's ok, sometimes, to admit your countries deficiencies. Don't be so nationalistic all the time

about the violations my opinion:


Turkey is breaking the law and shouldn't do it. Everyone must condemn it so it may stop.

If it doesn;t stop we will

_keep on intercepting

they will

_keep on losing pilots


mean while Greece goes forward with everything
Turkey goes backward in everything.

	25-01-2002 03:44									#95
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 every body knows tha NYC and america in general has much more crime than the EU. You have school shooting for christs sake

I give you a referenced source in which to check out what I've said and all I get in return is a collection of ad populum and ad hominem fallacies. For shame, paiktis.

	25-01-2002 03:49									#96
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I give you a referenced source in which to check out what I've said and all I get in return is a collection of ad populum and ad hominem fallacies. For shame, paiktis.

i can propably give you a ton more of literature that will contradict yours. what's the point?


reality is reality


when children are killing children in amewrica you have a sick society and you must change for your own good. I say this as a friend

	25-01-2002 03:56									#97
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 what's the point?

That you live in a stinking, rotting sewer of a continent and everyone knows it and the only thing that you have to back up your claims are so-called anonymous authorities.

Now for the coup de grace, you'll notice where most of the EU rates in comparison to the US.

	25-01-2002 04:02									#98
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blah,blah.blah

stay burried in your books. i can give 100 more that will say the opposite thing


meanwhile my son I have traveled long and hard and I have walked the valleys of the old continent. I have witnessed the thing you read about with prejudice!


When you tell me Paris is shitty whereas I have been there 20 times and have walked it from end to end you can take your books and use them to straighen out your desk or something. Because you have the wrong ones

meanwhile tell me how many children have died in school shootings in america ? Don't close your eyes and try to throw dirt you only hurt yourself...

we all fear that we may become like you, infested with violence and a sick society, that's our biggest fear

	25-01-2002 04:17									#99
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I don't have time to read this whole thing.

Has anybody yet mentioned how really, really truly attractive Turkish ladies are?

	25-01-2002 04:18									#100
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quote: Originally posted by GP I don't have time to read this whole thing. Has anybody yet mentioned how really, really truly attractive Turkish ladies are?

GP's night at the harem was uuuunforgetable

	25-01-2002 04:25									#101
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I'm thinking with my "head".

	25-01-2002 06:28									#102
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I think that us-americans are jealous because Greece is the father of democracy and not the United States.

Long Live Greece, home of the free and the brave!!

	25-01-2002 06:34									#103
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quote: stay burried in your books. i can give 100 more that will say the opposite thing

thats great! could you tell us the titles? i'm always interested in learning new information!

	25-01-2002 13:48									#104
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Face it, Paiktis--you dropped the gauntlet, and Dino picked it up and knocked you upside the head with it.

	25-01-2002 13:50									#105
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That you live in a stinking, rotting sewer of a continent and everyone knows it

Is this your house?

What is up with you guys?
Can't you ****ing keep your comments on topic?
What the hell has New York do with Athen's FIR violation?

	25-01-2002 14:54									#106
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quote: You can't compare the quality of life of the EU with USA

Yes, according to the Human Development Index (of the UN), most EU nations have lower quality of life than the US... so I guess you can't compare. Except for France and Norway, the EU isn't as good .

	25-01-2002 15:23									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: You can't compare the quality of life of the EU with USA Yes, according to the Human Development Index (of the UN), most EU nations have lower quality of life than the US... so I guess you can't compare. Except for France and Norway, the EU isn't as good .

Norway is a European country but not a member EU.
What about Denmark or Sweden or Luxebourg?
Even Ireland and Finland are quite developed but not sure compared to the US...

	25-01-2002 18:55									#108
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Any of you guys ever visit the USA, better come and visit before you start thinking Ireland is above us or even Norway, who I still haven't got an answer for what contribution they have done if they are so smart(higher educated). C'mon........................

My folks visited, England, Italy, Ireland and France and knowing they are from, they still said we have a much higher standard of living, they said Italy was particularily bad.

	25-01-2002 19:41									#109
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England (parts of london) is more known for crimes than NY

	25-01-2002 19:43									#110
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Any of you guys ever visit the USA, better come and visit before you start thinking Ireland is above us or even Norway

I have visited US.
My brother was studing there for a couple of years.
Some firends of mine either studied there or live there.

And yes they might be. Have you ever considered that some other nation might be better than yours in specific fields?

quote: Originally posted by Defiant who I still haven't got an answer for what contribution they have done if they are so smart(higher educated).

I gave you an answer. Not much!.
Regarding educational system in whole, from childhood to higher education are number one ranked in Microsoft Encarta + I have heared it before from other source.

quote: Originally posted by Defiant My folks visited, England, Italy, Ireland and France and knowing they are from, they still said we have a much higher standard of living, they said Italy was particularily bad.

I only mentioned Ireland and as a possibility and not as a fact.
I have a Greek-Irish friend and have told me many things about Ireland, not to mention that many large computer companies have their European headquarters there.

	25-01-2002 19:49									#111
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory England (parts of london) is more known for crimes than NY

Criminality has been reduced in NY in the last decade as far as I know.
I don't know details about London but many friends of mine who studies in London never mentioned criminality.
If criminals are located in a couple of regions within London then you simply don't go there and you've got no problem.
NY has criminality in their gettos too.

Something else beside trolling Saddam?

	25-01-2002 19:50									#112
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USA pub. School isnt that bad, Immirgrants drag down our test scores

Well they do...look at the state's close to mexico and compare them to Idaho or Wisconsin



btw.....does sombody have a map of the disputed Islands between greece and turkey?


Im off work today. But Im busy packing and obseessing about the weekend...

	25-01-2002 19:58									#113
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Now for the coup de grace, you'll notice where most of the EU rates in comparison to the US.

USA has dropped two places according to the 2001 HDI
Now Sweden and Belgium are the two EU countries ahead of the USA (France dropped 11 places )

	25-01-2002 20:04									#114
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory USA pub. School isnt that bad, Immirgrants drag down our test scores Well they do...look at the state's close to mexico and compare them to Idaho or Wisconsin

Immigrants? Isn't that what all of you are in the one or the other way. If not you directly then some of your ancestors for sure.
Do I distinguise some racial discrimination here?
"The immigrants lower our educational overall level"...

quote: Originally posted by faded glory btw.....does sombody have a map of the disputed Islands between greece and turkey?

Ask Turkey. They are the only ones to have those maps.
The rest maps have no disputed islands.

The Treaty of Lozane accepted by both parties and recognized worldwide do describe our borders clearly with no disputes at all.

What a troll Go kiss some Turkish ass Saddam

	25-01-2002 20:13									#115
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Ya but I doubt the average Belgian has as much gizmo's and money to spend as the average american consumer

we spend the average of 2000$ for christmas every year (not me tho )

	25-01-2002 20:18									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen Immigrants? Isn't that what all of you are in the one or the other way. If not you directly then some of your ancestors for sure. Do I distinguise some racial discrimination here? "The immigrants lower our educational overall level"...

No.......thats kind of a fact keggy


When a kid moves to a new country.....theres this thing called language and new standerds. Im sure you understand, right? Having all those Muslims pouring into greece

	25-01-2002 20:23									#117
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory No.......thats kind of a fact keggy When a kid moves to a new country.....theres this thing called language and new standerds. Im sure you understand, right? Having all those Muslims pouring into greece

No, you didn't get my point.
What you say might be a fact but since you are an immigrants' nation any immigrant recent or not is part of your identity therefore your educational system.

	25-01-2002 20:44									#118
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory Ya but I doubt the average Belgian has as much gizmo's and money to spend as the average american consumer we spend the average of 2000$ for christmas every year (not me tho )

Well, we never celebrated christmas in my family

That may be true but... I've had 10Mbit(theoretical speed, my max downloadspeed is around 7Mbit/s) cable internet for the last 3 years ... and you?

	25-01-2002 21:40									#119
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Ya but I doubt the average Belgian has as much gizmo's and money to spend as the average american consumer

we spend the average of 2000$ for christmas every year (not me tho )


From what I read that's being done mostly with credit card debt.

http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/680687.asp

	25-01-2002 22:17									#120
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory No.......thats kind of a fact keggy When a kid moves to a new country.....theres this thing called language and new standerds. Im sure you understand, right? Having all those Muslims pouring into greece

the albanian kids whocome to Greece kick ass in mathematics. Maybe they don't do so brilliant in Greek litterature but that's because it is not yet their mother language.

Mny albanian kiddos have become first students here and that's a great credit to our educational system. (and a small bell of alarm for Greek kids who prefer to play playstation instead of doing their homework )

US educational system is for laughs