30-01-2002 01:55									#1
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In the grand scheme of things the attacks on the wtc are insignificant in terms of loss of life. Big deal under 5000 people died there, more then that probably died in the first day of bombing in afganistan. As for the claim that the attack cost over 100 billion? Thats just a load of BS, the airlines etc where all doing horrible before 9/11 with a few of the major ones already having declared bankruptcy. Most industries where just looking for a bailout. The biggest effect it has was awaking people to the fact that the USA was not invicible and sending a signal to other terrorist groups saying, look see what we did if we can do it so can you.

What has always confused me about this is why go to all the trouble of hijacking an airplane and flying it into sky scrappers, when you could do far more damage driving up to a city resovoir and dropping in some kind of chemical weapon, or blowing up the alaska pikeline, trains etc. So do people think this is the end or the begining of large terrorist attacks on the USA? I personally think its just the start, and it will continue until the US uses other sources of energy and pulls out of the middle east.

	30-01-2002 01:56									#2
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*Ushers markusf into flame-proof bunker and locks the door, for his own protection*

	30-01-2002 01:58									#3
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we had a thread on this not too long ago. It was a troll attempt I believe. But it had some truth to it.

	30-01-2002 01:58									#4
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It's 11/9.

	30-01-2002 01:59									#5
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and city reservoirs are too big to contaminate. unless you want to pee in it

You would need hundreds of dump trucks worth of chemicals. That tends to get noticed.

	30-01-2002 01:59									#6
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quote: In the grand scheme of things the attacks on the wtc are insignificant in terms of loss of life.

In the grand scheme of things, everything is insignificant.

	30-01-2002 02:00									#7
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Do we have to go through this again

	30-01-2002 02:00									#8
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including the eventual extinction of mammals longer than 1 foot.

	30-01-2002 02:01									#9
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but he is right. less than 3000 people died.

It really didn't mean much. more than that died in traffic accidents in september.

	30-01-2002 02:05									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident including the eventual extinction of mammals longer than 1 foot.

and what rats wil lbe the next ones to devlop a civilization

	30-01-2002 02:05									#11
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who needs civilization?

	30-01-2002 02:06									#12
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in case it isn't obvious

humans don't mean sh!t to the earth. In 1 billion years human will be long gone, and the earth will continue in its ways until the sun envelops it.

	30-01-2002 02:07									#13
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the coackroaches will inherit the earth. (radiation resistent - highest adaptability)

	30-01-2002 02:09									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident including the eventual extinction of mammals longer than 1 foot.

I have a hard time imagining any situation that would cause animals of a cetain length to die out... unless maybe, if it was some how involved with packaging.

	30-01-2002 02:09									#15
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 the coackroaches will inherit the earth. (radiation resistent - highest adaptability)

I think Bees will be left.


Maybe the dung beatle

	30-01-2002 02:13									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber I think Bees will be left.

Well, they are much cuter

	30-01-2002 02:15									#17
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nuclear winter (or huge freakin' asteroid hitting the earth) = lack of food for mamals longer than 1 foot. Short mammals will survive due to their lower food requirements.

who knows... maybe they will evolve into a species of highly intelligent apes.

	30-01-2002 02:20									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident and city reservoirs are too big to contaminate. unless you want to pee in it You would need hundreds of dump trucks worth of chemicals. That tends to get noticed.

well you could dump in a pound of some bacteria, and there are some chemicals that you only need a few hearts per million to die from... IF it did take big trucks there wouldn't be people guarding enterences to water treatment centers. There was a scare here in the summer when some of these places where broken into

	30-01-2002 02:22									#19
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You know, it is probably better we don't feed these trolls. I don't think they are trying to make serious arguments at all. It is most likely people like Dominikos and markusf are just pathetic losers dying for any attention they can get, even if it is negative.

	30-01-2002 02:22									#20
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don't forget the cattle industry

hoof and mouth anyone?

although it might be worth it to see mcdonalds go out of business

	30-01-2002 02:24									#21
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since this is an unserious troll thread, I will plug my Survey here. I don't know why I posted it in Apolyton community.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=40983

	30-01-2002 02:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi You know, it is probably better we don't feed these trolls. I don't think they are trying to make serious arguments at all. It is most likely people like Dominikos and markusf are just pathetic losers dying for any attention they can get, even if it is negative.

This thread deserves a fine layer of spam to be applied

	30-01-2002 02:34									#23
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quote: You know, it is probably better we don't feed these trolls. I don't think they are trying to make serious arguments at all. It is most likely people like Dominikos and markusf are just pathetic losers dying for any attention they can get, even if it is negative.

If you don't like it, don't read it! You're one of the biggest whiners I've seen on Apolyton. Dominikos this, Dominikos that. You better believe it!

Now I'm ready to leave.

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	30-01-2002 02:37									#24
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Hey, have any of you noticed how odd the weather has been? It is late January but lately we've been getting spring-like weather.

How is the weather where you are?

	30-01-2002 03:06									#25
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The reason the attacks were so overhyped was because -

A- It happened to the US
B- Those landmarks are familiar to the entire west, not just the US.

But, there were also justified reasons it was so publicised-

C- It was the largest single terrorist attack in history
D- People of many nationalities were killed, on live TV

Had it been to an EU nation, it wouldn't have been quite so publicised, but it certainly would have been big.

	30-01-2002 03:13									#26
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Hey, have any of you noticed how odd the weather has been? It is late January but lately we've been getting spring-like weather.

How is the weather where you are?

*** ******* COLD It has been about -35 the last few mornings down from -25 the previous week. They keep saying it will get warmer, but I don't believe anymore.

	30-01-2002 03:14									#27
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big snow storm in vancouver, haven't seen this in years....

snow is still on the ground 2 days later? wtf ?

	30-01-2002 03:26									#28
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"As for the claim that the attack cost over 100 billion? Thats just a load of BS, the airlines etc where all doing horrible before 9/11 with a few of the major ones already having declared bankruptcy. Most industries where just looking for a bailout"

We will never know the total cost. The ripple effect in the US was quite great. I went to Las Vegas in early November. We discussed the effect with quite a few dealers during the endless hours we spent at the tables. Most of them had only been called in for 3 days or less a week after 9/11. (the norm prior was 4-6 days a week) The hotel we were staying at was operating at less than 50% capacity when the norm is closer to 85%. This was a full two months after and one of their normal peaks. People were saying it was just starting to turn back up again. A lot of the people that canceled or didn't book were foreigners. That money is never going to be recooped. If Vegas ran at 66% of the norm for two months the cost was estimated at over 1 billion dollars. Most Companies cancel all business travel. And some still haven't resumed. The impact on Hotels, Resturants, Convention centers, taxis/limos, hookers, etc.

This doesn't even consider those companies that were literally destroyed in the collapse. The infrastructure damage, The cost of the cleanup. The overtime hours paid to workers.

The ripples keep spreading farther.

So even though the I agree that the airlines were already in trouble, this just made things worse.

I really don't think 100 billion was an Exaggeration and in the long run may be kinda low.

I guess you have to live here and actually open your eyes to see just how much was impacted from a monetary standpoint.

RAH

	30-01-2002 03:30									#29
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 It's 11/9.

IIRC That's when the Berlin Wall fell, paiktis22.

	30-01-2002 03:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Had it been to an EU nation, it wouldn't have been quite so publicised, but it certainly would have been big.

Yeah, sort of like the way the world ignored that whole Nazi thing that happend way back when, what was it that happend again...? Or those damnable soccer holligans who did what? And what of that silly Berlin Wall episode, I can't quite remember, lets see... Not to mention that incident in the former Chech Repulic that the world largely ignored.

Do all Euros feel this sorry for themselves?

"quite so pulicised", HA!