31-01-2002 23:15									#1
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Mot neccessarily after the US (it's most likely to be simultaneous).

I think Switzerland are secretly planning world domination....

	31-01-2002 23:20									#2
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I think that after the US, China will become one of, if not the most dominant nation on the planet.

	31-01-2002 23:21									#3
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No, we all know that behind the scenes, USA and Israel will be pulling all the strings

	31-01-2002 23:22									#4
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It will be some sort of alliance or goverment that reaches over most of the world. It's almost here today, in the form of alliances like NATO and the EU.

	31-01-2002 23:22									#5
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Heh, and the UK's in there twice...

	31-01-2002 23:26									#6
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quote: Heh, and the UK's in there twice...

Of course

I meant inside or outside the EU.

But we all know it's either The Swiss Empire or Australia.

	31-01-2002 23:33									#7
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I dunno, this Karzai dude gets around...

	01-02-2002 00:01									#8
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The next Superpower will be a Banana Republic.

	01-02-2002 00:03									#9
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Nobody expects the Canadian invasion.

	01-02-2002 00:03									#10
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Other:

Isle of Man

Jon Miller

	01-02-2002 00:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller Other: Isle of Man Jon Miller

Nah, they'll be destroyed by the Isle of Wight Empire.

	01-02-2002 00:56									#12
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Two words:

Viva Cuba!

	01-02-2002 00:58									#13
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Heh, i'll be impressed if Cuba doesn't self-desctruct in the next 10 years.

Anyhow, there's somewhat of a power vaccume in asia right now, and china is the best positioned to take advantage of that, so I think we'll see china growing in significance over the next 10 years or so.

	01-02-2002 02:31									#14
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I personally think the EU,Japan,USA, and Russia will form a global alliance.


I think after Communism falls in China (not far), the Chinese will most likely join this alliance.

Together we will tackle issues like Poverty, Dictatorships, Trade, Global Communications, Research, Stabilty, and enviroment.

	01-02-2002 02:42									#15
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quote: Originally posted by faded glory I personally think the EU,Japan,USA, and Russia will form a global alliance. I think after Communism falls in China (not far), the Chinese will most likely join this alliance. Together we will tackle issues like Poverty, Dictatorships , Trade, Global Communications, Research, Stabilty, and enviroment.

But you just said the US will be part of the alliance...

	01-02-2002 02:45									#16
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It all depends on when the EU stops expanding. Will it keep expanding beyond the bounds of Europe? If Russia were to join the EU in the next 30-40 years then its clear that the combined population, resources and socio-economic climate would make "Europe" the next Superpower.

If China abandons communism, then bye-bye for them. If they gradually increase socio-economic freedoms they stand a much better chance. Russia fell apart after the collapse of communism, do we want the same for China?

	01-02-2002 02:46									#17
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I voted 'other' because there was no option to pick the Hive.

	01-02-2002 02:49									#18
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quote: Originally posted by RedFred I voted 'other' because there was no option to pick the Hive.

The Hive IS America, just with a Chinese guy's head as President

	01-02-2002 04:04									#19
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China will likely be the next superpower because they are the only country of such size that is taking population control seriously.

	01-02-2002 04:09									#20
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It's the Czechs.

We're just waiting for the right moment.

	01-02-2002 04:09									#21
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Nah, they'll be destroyed by the Isle of Wight Empire.

Nah, they will both crumble before the might of the Scilly Isles

	01-02-2002 04:49									#22
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There won't be another superpower. If any nation can reach parity (in all areas) with the US, that would mean US power has diminished greatly. In turn that would mean more than one nation could rise up, thus eliminating the meaning of Superpower.

	01-02-2002 05:41									#23
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quote: thus eliminating the meaning of Superpower.

IIRC, the term superpower came into use describing both the USSR and the USA as the worlds 2 superpowers.

	01-02-2002 05:45									#24
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I didn't even vote for Australia. You want to be a superpower? You're welcome to it.

Next country will be either China or India or Brazil (in that order). The European Union is already a superpower.

	01-02-2002 05:48									#25
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I see a tripolar system: US, EU, China emerging.

Which is good, because tripolar systems are the most stable empirically.

	01-02-2002 06:05									#26
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I think the EU has a long way to go before they can claim themselves to be a superpower. Millions of things can happen in the next 50 years. Another Hitler, Immigrants become a majority, Terrorism, Taxation destroys the idea of an EU..etc...etc....

But if EU does rise to power. It would be a good idea for the USA to court them....and not shun them.

	01-02-2002 06:10									#27
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It will be t he USA/EU alliance against the evil forces of um....

	01-02-2002 06:41									#28
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> because tripolar systems are the most stable empirically.

Like (Austria-Hungary, Germany) + (Russia, UK, France) + US?

1914-19 didn't seem very stable to me.

Tri-poles are stable when the #1 tries to dominate, but they're deadly when the #3 starts to fall apart. I could see:

(China, India, Pakistan) + EU + US winding up in the same bind if the US went isolationist and the east Asian powers started to slip back towards being western vassal states.

	01-02-2002 06:58									#29
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quote: But if EU does rise to power. It would be a good idea for the USA to court them....and not shun them.

That's the major problem. Europe sees their potential rise as a counter-balance/competitor rather than a compliment to the US. That type of thinking will cause future problems.

But when it comes to military power, does/will Europe really have the stomach to be a military power?

	01-02-2002 07:03									#30
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I define Tripolar as systems where there are three major powers, not necessarily three major alliances.

And one case doesn't do very much... try looking at all the wars/conflicts from 1400 to present, like my professor did. Took him about 6 years just to compile the list of wars/conflicts