11-02-2002 06:31									#31
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theres plenty to see silly.
we have mountains
hills
lakes
plains
desert
beach
and cities where there's TONS of stuff to find
you're just refusing to look..you're biased

	11-02-2002 06:33									#32
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Mountains? Are they in any way comparable to what he'd see in Colorado and BC/Alberta?

Hills? Are they in any way comparable to California's rolling green hills?

Lakes? See the beautiful mountain lakes in BC/Alberta/Cali.

Plains? These are exciting?

Desert? Can see that in the drive through New Mexico/Arizona. Terribly boring.

Beach? Surely there's no beaches in California.

Texas has nothing special, that's the point.

	11-02-2002 06:33									#33
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yeah, ummm...what exactly do you mean there's nothing to see asher? the only thing we don't have is mountains (big ones anyway), but we have the most beautiful sunsets and star-filled skies anywhere....

	11-02-2002 06:34									#34
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well i cant southern women arent much to look at...... guess it just depends on your taste? i'm a southerner...


but as for what to see....... i cant imagine 2 weeks in texas.. i'd wana see some sights..... like grand canyon, niagra falls, mount rushmore.... idk just things that you can only see in the US.....

	11-02-2002 06:35									#35
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quote: Hills? Are they in any way comparable to California's rolling green hills?

umm...yes. Much better in my opinion. Austin and to the northwest, the countryside is unbelievable.

	11-02-2002 06:35									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak yeah, ummm...what exactly do you mean there's nothing to see asher? the only thing we don't have is mountains (big ones anyway), but we have the most beautiful sunsets and star-filled skies anywhere....

Look, I understand you guys wanting to hype up where you're from, but Texas is nothing spectacular for a tourist.

You say blanket statements like that, when I guarantee you you've never been to many places at ALL.

Alberta sunsets over the mountains are simply astonishing, far more than you'd get in Texas.

Alberta is so sparsely populated you can easily see more of the star-filled sky, plus it's not NEARLY as polluted as Texas is.

	11-02-2002 06:50									#37
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quote: when I guarantee you you've never been to many places at ALL.

Let's see...I've been to 47 states. The only states I haven't been to are Hawaii, Maine, and North Dakota.


And I've been to France, Germany, England, Spain, Switzerland, Italy, Belgium, Austria, The Netherlands, and the Czech Republic.

The Caymans, The Bahamas, Jamaica, and all over Mexico.

	11-02-2002 06:50									#38
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actually yes i have: i've been to alaska, california, washington...oh hell..i've bussed literally all around this country..no one has better sun sets and rises than us

	11-02-2002 06:52									#39
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Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit.

What makes Texas sunrises/sunsets better than, say, Alberta's?

	11-02-2002 06:57									#40
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Well, with the desert in west texas, it makes the sun sets a beautiful red...hard to explain...yet breathtaking...

	11-02-2002 06:58									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak Well, with the desert in west texas, it makes the sun sets a beautiful red...hard to explain...yet breathtaking...

Oh, indeed, I apologize. I didn't know you had red sunsets there. No one else in the world has those.

	11-02-2002 07:06									#43
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Seen all of those many, many times before here.

Those are nothing special to Texas. Why would you think they are?

	11-02-2002 07:09									#44
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because I have been around the world, and seen with my own eyes...You didn't list your travels...do you not get around much?

	11-02-2002 07:12									#45
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who would have ever thought that mortal enemies, kaak and dm, would ban together against asher?

	11-02-2002 07:13									#46
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Indeed I have. I don't list them as a form of bragging, though. Sorry to disappoint.

The fact that you've been all over the world means nothing, to be blunt. It depends on the seasons, weather, etc. in other places, and I really doubt you spent any real amount of time in those places to get anywhere near the amount of Texas sunsets you've witnessed.

How come you've never been to Canada?
You're missing out on a whole lot, my bigoted Christian friend.

	11-02-2002 07:14									#47
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Quit arguing, all of you. Texas has things canada doesn't have, and vice versa. Although I'd choose Montana over either of those.

	11-02-2002 07:15									#48
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quote: Originally posted by devilmunchkin who would have ever thought that mortal enemies, kaak and dm, would ban together against asher?

I know several people in Texas, and you two are the only ones that insist it's worth seeing as a tourist.

I asked one of my Texan friends just now about the sunsets, his response:

quote: And actually...sunsets here suck most of the time. Why? They blind you to hell when driving. Since the land is flat in East Texas, there's nothing to block it. More so in West Texas. Then you have our summers... During which people flop over dead on the sidewalks. Yay for heat strokes. During the winters, we're all sneezing, coughing, and generally spreading diseases. Fall lasts like a week. Spring is nice, though. ... I prefer pink sunsets. And it's too damned hot in west Texas. It's hot HERE during summer...there's no way I'd be caught in west Texas during summertime. Also in west Texas...sandstorms. Those are not cool.

	11-02-2002 07:17									#49
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay37 Quit arguing, all of you. Texas has things canada doesn't have, and vice versa. Although I'd choose Montana over either of those.

Nonsense, the only thing Texas has that Canada doesn't have is unbearable humidity and heat and an illegal immigrant problem.

Canada's got desert, plains, mountains, grasslands, hills, tundra, etc. Most diverse landscape this side of the Sun.

	11-02-2002 07:17									#50
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Mainly because there is nothing extraordinary about Canada. If I want beautiful mountains and valleys, I can go to colorado. Much closer and less expensive. If i'm going to spend money on a big trip, I go somewhere beautiful and FUN. Like Europe, or the Carribean. As for as listing travels as bragging, one could see it rather as correcting an incorrect presumption from a very presumptuous person, i.e. an attempt to correct ignorance, rather than bragging

as far as a good deal of time, I don't claim to have lived in any of those places, but i have spent a good deal of time in europe, mexico, the carribean, and many of the states.

	11-02-2002 07:18									#51
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--"you're just refusing to look..you're biased"

Devilmunchkin, take my advice. It's not worth trying to argue with Asher, he's always like this...

I thought it'd be safe to read his posts in a non-technical thread. Nah.

Asher, there's a lot of area to Texas. Some of it isn't any fun to visit (quote found in an Ultima 7 easter-egg: "Looks like ****, could be west Texas"). Some of it is. Your "one driving trip" can hardly have encompassed even a fair amount of the state. So before you go on about "have you been to", try actually visiting.

I moved down here from an area in the Rocky Mountains. You want a plain city, go visit Denver. Austin (and the surrounding area) is quite nice. If you want some good indie music, check out the Austin club scene. Heck, we've even got an indie film scene going now. There's plenty to do around here for those willing to brave the daystar.

(Hey, if you're coming up in summer, maybe you can stop by A-Kon...)

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	11-02-2002 07:19									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak Mainly because there is nothing extraordinary about Canada. If I want beautiful mountains and valleys, I can go to colorado. Much closer and less expensive. If i'm going to spend money on a big trip, I go somewhere beautiful and FUN. Like Europe, or the Carribean. As for as listing travels as bragging, one could see it rather as correcting an incorrect presumption from a very presumptuous person, i.e. an attempt to correct ignorance, rather than bragging as far as a good deal of time, I don't claim to have lived in any of those places, but i have spent a good deal of time in europe, mexico, the carribean, and many of the states.

Hah.
There's nothing extraordinary about Canada? Okay, whatever, you're right. Texas is far more extraordinary for a transatlantic tourist.

You've never been here, don't even start bullshitting like that.

Until EITHER of you two, dm or Kaak, come to Canada and see it for yourself, I don't want to hear either of you say Texas is better.

*sneer*

	11-02-2002 07:21									#53
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quote: I asked one of my Texan friends just now about the sunsets, his response:

He is gay, isn't he?

But you are right about one thing...Don't spend a whole lot of time in west texas, unless you have to. A lot of it is beautiful, but sandstorms do suck...But then again, Texas is a big place. Trying to generalize from one region is, again, a little presumptuous..

	11-02-2002 07:21									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith Devilmunchkin, take my advice. It's not worth trying to argue with Asher, he's always like this... I thought it'd be safe to read his posts in a non-technical thread. Nah.

Coming from the man who puts people on the ignore list that disagree with him?

Grow up, IT lackey.

Texas has NOTHING special.
No one has proved otherwise. It may be a nice place, but it's nothing exceptional. Anyone want to argue that?

	11-02-2002 07:22									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak He is gay, isn't he? But you are right about one thing...Don't spend a whole lot of time in west texas, unless you have to. A lot of it is beautiful, but sandstorms do suck...But then again, Texas is a big place. Trying to generalize from one region is, again, a little presumptuous..

No, he's not gay.

Now who's being presumptuous?

	11-02-2002 07:22									#56
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How much time have you spend in Texas? where did you go? I;ve flown over canada, does that count?

	11-02-2002 07:23									#57
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btw, the gay thing was a JOKE, not a presumption...

	11-02-2002 07:24									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak How much time have you spend in Texas? where did you go? I;ve flown over canada, does that count?

No, it doesn't count.

I spent two days in Texas. Too much time, if you ask me. Plus a time in the airport, which doesn't count.

El Paso, Austin, Panhandle Plains, and some other places I don't recall. Mostly because I was bored out of my mind...

	11-02-2002 07:27									#59
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quote: You want a plain city, go visit Denver.

Screw Denver. You want a nice place to visit in Colorado, you need to get up to the smaller mountain towns. I'd reccomend Vail and Winter Park, but those are really expensive sometimes. I'd go for places like Grand Lake or Granby. Same surroundings and views, not nearly as expensive.

	11-02-2002 07:27									#60
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Anyone that was bored in austin was either dead or in a coma...