11-02-2002 05:36									#1
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After a long in depth discussion with loads of planning and though with David Floyd, I've decided that I will most likely be going to America this summer.

Texas on my high priority list, and I'm looking to go for probably 2 weeks now (due to poor finances) and I'm looking to make it cheap as possible, i.e any of you good people putting me up... showing me round etc..

So I'm considering travelling probably late July/August... I need all the help I can get as I know practically nothing about America.

	11-02-2002 05:39									#2
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There's actually not much of interest in Texas...at all. Except for people.

Places I'd go visit would be the New York area, California, Florida, and somewhere in the Rocky Mountains (This is a must). I'm partial to the Canadian Rockies because they tend to be bigger and more beautiful.

If you're ever near Montana/Idaho/BC/Alberta let me know and we can arrange something.

	11-02-2002 05:40									#3
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I'm in Montana, too! If you're up here, let me know. There really is some beautiful country here.

	11-02-2002 05:45									#4
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Texas . . . in the summer? You are a masochist, aren't you? Can't say my neck of the woods is much more comfortable, but at least I can go swimming in the ocean to cool off.

Ignore Asher, Texas hill country is some of the most beautiful land in the world. Plus, there's all of the Apoylton Texans to meet.

Personally, depending on how long you have, I'd hit LA, Chicago, and New York. I'd go to Yosemite, Yellowstone, zip north to see the Big Sky Country, DisneyWorld, and Washington D.C., and whatever Apolytoners are in the area.

Last edited by chegitz guevara on 11-02-2002 at 05:50

	11-02-2002 05:51									#5
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I'd much rather see the country than big cities to be honest. New York doesn't interest me in the slightest.

I love hot weather, chilli and tacos too

What I'd like to do is actually drive over there, but I'm not sure how that would work.

	11-02-2002 05:56									#6
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Driving across the ocean doesn't work.

	11-02-2002 05:57									#7
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I meant hiring a car over there

	11-02-2002 05:58									#8
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You gotta credit card and a license, you can rent a car. Just remember, we drive on the right side of the road, and we use milage, not kilometers.

	11-02-2002 06:01									#9
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We use mileage too

I'd probably like to start off in Texas, spend 2 or 3 days there, then take a scenic route to wherever next.

	11-02-2002 06:03									#10
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Rocky Mountains are an absolute must. Colorado is a nice place to visit if you want to get outdoors a bit.

	11-02-2002 06:05									#11
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Ignore Asher, Texas hill country is some of the most beautiful land in the world. Plus, there's all of the Apoylton Texans to meet.

How many places have you been in the world?

Texas is nothing special, certainly not worth the huge transatlantic fares, unless you have LOTS of people there to visit.

	11-02-2002 06:06									#12
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You gotta credit card and a license, you can rent a car. Just remember, we drive on the right side of the road, and we use milage, not kilometers.

You must be 25 to rent vehicles, no?

	11-02-2002 06:07									#13
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If you still really want to go to Texas, here's the route I suggest:

Texas -> Colorado -> California -> Washington/Oregon -> Montana -> Alberta/BC -> Home.

	11-02-2002 06:10									#14
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Would that route be do-able say on £1,000 and 2 weeks?

	11-02-2002 06:11									#15
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at some places you do have to be 25, but not all. And don't listen to asher, he is speaking from ignorance! Texas is unbelievable. The countryside is fantastic, the people are friendly, the women are beautiful, the clubs are great, and It is pretty much everything all rolled into one. You are more than welcome to stay with me a day or two if you'd like, and I can show you around Dallas, Houston or Austin. Oh, and did i mention the women? The food is the best anywhere too

	11-02-2002 06:11									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You must be 25 to rent vehicles, no?

No. It just costs more if you're 21-24.

	11-02-2002 06:12									#17
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quote: Originally posted by MattHiggs Would that route be do-able say on £1,000 and 2 weeks?

Is that excluding airfare?

It depends on the hotels or if you get a place in someone's house, and car rentals, etc.

I'd say it's definitely possible, excluding airfare.

I'd even go as far as letting you stay at my place for a few days if you're in Calgary.

	11-02-2002 06:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MattHiggs Would that route be do-able say on £1,000 and 2 weeks?

Easily, but I thought you guys used Australia dollars.

	11-02-2002 06:12									#19
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As to ashers route, leave off Montana and Alberta, and hit Las Vegas and Lake Tahoe instead...you could make it work. still a lot of driving tho...

	11-02-2002 06:14									#20
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There are some great places in Arizona and New mexico that you shouldn't miss either...

	11-02-2002 06:14									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak at some places you do have to be 25, but not all. And don't listen to asher, he is speaking from ignorance! Texas is unbelievable. The countryside is fantastic, the people are friendly, the women are beautiful, the clubs are great, and It is pretty much everything all rolled into one. You are more than welcome to stay with me a day or two if you'd like, and I can show you around Dallas, Houston or Austin. Oh, and did i mention the women? The food is the best anywhere too

You can get the food just about anywhere, the women are certainly nothing special.

What do you mean the countryside is fantastic? It's rather dull most of the time, and it peaks at mediocrity. I've been there once, on a driving trip, and I'm not compelled to go back again. Ever.

The people there are nice, provided you are a Good Little Christian.

Don't listen to Kaak...

	11-02-2002 06:14									#22
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Seeing as I'll be 19 I think I wouldn't be able to appreciate Las Vegas

	11-02-2002 06:14									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak As to ashers route, leave off Montana and Alberta, and hit Las Vegas and Lake Tahoe instead...you could make it work. still a lot of driving tho...

Coming from a man who has never seen the Canadian Rockies. Tsk tsk.

	11-02-2002 06:16									#24
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Rockies are rockies are rockies...

	11-02-2002 06:20									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MattHiggs Seeing as I'll be 19 I think I wouldn't be able to appreciate Las Vegas

Say hello to Grayhound!

	11-02-2002 06:20									#26
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Texas and California are my favorite states. Travel on route 66 if you're able. Try route 1 - Pacific Coast Highway.

I had a nice map with the above roads plus 9 others like: The ExtraTerrestrial Highway, The Great Northerner, The Lonliest Road in the World and so on, but can't find the link now.

	11-02-2002 06:23									#27
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yay!
asher: we have big cities....Houston and Dallas are some of the biggest in the united states (houston is 4, dallas is 8)...
this also includes san antonio (9 in the nation) and austin (16) ..four BIG in texas made the top 20 in size....close up is El Paso at 23, Fort worth at 17, Arlington is at 54, Corpus Christi (awesome beach resort place) at 61, Plano at 79, Garland at 82, and Lubbock at 91.....
(btw: me and kaak live in waco...#201 in the US)...but that Texas has 11 of it's cities in the Top 100 cities in the US is prolly better that any other state can claim. Asher is just miffed that we're not all scrunched up together like sardines...which makes for great starry nights and beautiful sun rises and sets......

	11-02-2002 06:25									#28
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quote: Originally posted by devilmunchkin yay! asher: we have big cities....Houston and Dallas are some of the biggest in the united states (houston is 4, dallas is 8)... this also includes san antonio (9 in the nation) and austin (16) ..four BIG in texas made the top 20 in size....close up is El Paso at 23, Fort worth at 17, Arlington is at 54, Corpus Christi (awesome beach resort place) at 61, Plano at 79, Garland at 82, and Lubbock at 91..... (btw: me and kaak live in waco...#201 in the US)...but that Texas has 11 of it's cities in the Top 100 cities in the US is prolly better that any other state can claim. Asher is just miffed that we're not all scrunched up together like sardines...which makes for great starry nights and beautiful sun rises and sets......

Of course Texas has big cities. But that doesn't change the fact that there's nothing to see there...

And compared to Canada, you're WAY WAY WAY more scrunched up together like sardines. Even Texas.

	11-02-2002 06:25									#29
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quote: Seeing as I'll be 19 I think I wouldn't be able to appreciate Las Vegas

Yes, well there is that...

Tahoe, tho, gotta hit tahoe...

Hmm...You should probably start in Louisiana...

Louisiana --> Texas --> New Mexico --> Colorado --> California (Tahoe) --> Oregon.

Just my suggestion, but i think you would see more and drive less...

	11-02-2002 06:27									#30
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Having lived in Northern California for four years, I think it's safe to say Tahoe is overrated.

It's like the Little Brother of real mountain resorts like Banff and ones in Colorado.

The Bay Area is a must ,though. Definitely take Route 1 up the west coast, too. Stunning scenery.