12-02-2002 07:55									#1
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Why should we feel patriotic, you ask? Is it cause we're filled with national pride? Cause we were attacked?

Why are we still holding on to this, you ask?

Here's why:

6 dead officers killed trying to save woman

	12-02-2002 07:59									#2
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That is a wonderful story...

More Euro's who are sick of our 'patriotism' should read it.

	12-02-2002 08:03									#3
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Sh*t Imran, you know they'll just mock it.

	12-02-2002 08:03									#4
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they wont read it. They will skip over it and troll something like "Nationalism oppresses the workers/proleteriat and helps big business to rake in profits"




Of course I am ****in proud......I would have been right down to WTC had I been in the area..


I love this country. god bless america!

	12-02-2002 08:06									#5
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I fail to see what's so great about a number of good people dying...

And I also fail to see why this is a good reason for US patriotism: unless the US is the only country on the planet which has such great people in it. Explain further..?

	12-02-2002 08:07									#6
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Sh*t Imran, you know they'll just mock it.

Already starting: How can six dead officers be killed? They are already dead, after all.

	12-02-2002 08:08									#7
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Like we say... sometimes you should be more patriotic. Like that paiktis fellow .

	12-02-2002 08:09									#8
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quote: Sh*t Imran, you know they'll just mock it

Mock what? Those men died heroes.

I am getting the giggles at all of your reactions to it, though. I doubt nationality had much to do with their actions.

quote: I love this country. god bless america!

What an original sentiment.

	12-02-2002 08:10									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie I fail to see what's so great about a number of good people dying... And I also fail to see why this is a good reason for US patriotism: unless the US is the only country on the planet which has such great people in it. Explain further..?

Because we are the greatest nation on earth.

And the least of our countrymen, are still our brothers. An when you strike down a brother.....the whole family is united in kicking your ass



edit: and thats sums up wat patriotism is.

A nation cant survive without unity and some form of natioalism

	12-02-2002 08:13									#10
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quote: You ask "Why do we feel so patriotic"?

No. We ask you to shut up.

	12-02-2002 08:14									#11
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You mean like we do with your Greece nationalism?

	12-02-2002 08:15									#12
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EDIT: to paiktis' comment, not yours, Imran.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 No. We ask you to shut up.

There must be a back log at the CIA. I would have thought that they would have found you before now.

	12-02-2002 08:17									#14
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse EDIT: to paiktis' comment, not yours, Imran.

Silly Canuck .

	12-02-2002 08:20									#15
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ignore me

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	12-02-2002 08:21									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie And I also fail to see why this is a good reason for US patriotism: unless the US is the only country on the planet which has such great people in it. Explain further..?

What, and you wouldn't feel that your country is great and your people are great when your people try to save total strangers, people they don't know? When they think not of themselves and sacrifice their lives trying to preserve others?

If you don't think that is a great thing, an honorable thing, a patriotic thing, then you are a MORON, and I will not give you any respect. Period.

	12-02-2002 08:22									#17
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No country has a monopoly on heroism.

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quote: You God damn mind reader How did you quote me if you posted 1 minute before me? I knew I was right about the Conspiracy.....hah! My foil hat will deflect your telepathy No I must take my findings public

Somebody's been drinking...

	12-02-2002 08:24									#19
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Have to love the love! Those officers were extremely brave, I'm glad we have people like that in those positions.
Too bad these individuals couldn't make it out

	12-02-2002 08:24									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse No country has a monopoly on heroism.

We should! Damn those anti-trust laws .

	12-02-2002 08:25									#21
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forget it......your right. i swore you pos.....never mind. post deleted!

(but im watching you)

	12-02-2002 08:26									#22
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quote: If you don't think that is a great thing, an honorable thing, a patriotic thing, then you are a MORON, and I will not give you any respect. Period

How many two-fours did you say you and faded have finished off now?

	12-02-2002 08:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous What, and you wouldn't feel that your country is great and your people are great when your people try to save total strangers, people they don't know? When they think not of themselves and sacrifice their lives trying to preserve others? If you don't think that is a great thing, an honorable thing, a patriotic thing, then you are a MORON, and I will not give you any respect. Period.

These people were great- you must have missed the two sentences of my post where I said this. But selflessness is not necessarily an American trait, so why should you celebrate America because of their actions?!

And anyway, if we should celebrate America because of great people like that, then we should equally despise it because of people like you.

	12-02-2002 08:27									#24
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous What, and you wouldn't feel that your country is great and your people are great when your people try to save total strangers, people they don't know? When they think not of themselves and sacrifice their lives trying to preserve others?

Every country does that you silly cow. It's what countries do

So keep you pants on

	12-02-2002 08:30									#25
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I'm an American and what those men did would make me want to celebrate what humanity is capable of, not Americans.

	12-02-2002 08:31									#26
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Is America the only country in the world that likes to point out individuals in it's country that have done good things, and try to be like them? By the same token, shouldn't we as Americans, point out the people from here that hasve done good, and say, here, these people are what make America great, if it weren't for them, we wouldn't live in such a great place.

Oh, wait, we're putting the individual above the collective, my bad

	12-02-2002 08:32									#27
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if patriotism is being proud of heroes like those, we need more patriots.

If patriotism is being proud of your country when it does bad things, we need less

What is it? Depends on the patriots. Americans are hopefully (and I think probably) more of the first kind.

	12-02-2002 08:32									#28
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We celebrate them because we've never been faced with this before. What ticks me off is when we're patriotic just so that we can wave our flag and say that we're better. That's not why I do it. I do it because I see that my fellow man will help if my life is in danger. It just happens to focus on the U.S. because it was an attack on the U.S.

	12-02-2002 08:34									#29
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous We celebrate them because we've never been faced with this before.

Um, they were police officers. They do it all the time, and have done it before. People just didn't notice because it didn't happen during such a notable event.

	12-02-2002 15:13									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous What ticks me off is when we're patriotic just so that we can wave our flag and say that we're better.

But it comes across as: Those are heroes because they are Americans. Why else would you be nationally proud about it ? Included that officers in other countries are less worth.

You may not mean it that way, but the connection between officers who risk or give their life to save others and nationalism is just insane.