18-02-2002 17:25									#241
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune Not so sure. Remember, itīs a very well supplied island. A colony of only 50 or 100 would be quite viable, and there are hundreds of us... Post your strats for the Apolyton Civil War here!

1) we all join into a commune except Comrade.

2) we all go after Comrade.

The end.

	18-02-2002 18:05									#242
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune I wonder why no one mentioned the obvious, yet: The island would clearly be a smallish SMAC.

It would be like SMAC, of course.

Grrr....you beat me to it. I was gonna post that!

	18-02-2002 22:16									#243
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Well, let's look at the problems:

-Everyone has his or her own view on how to run things.
-No tools.
-10:1 Man-woman ratio.

Proposed Solutions:

-Create a "Grand Council" of ten leaders, with the Mods and Admins filling up most of the spots. The remainders will be filled by election. (Not a winner-take all election)

-Obviously, make them.

-This is a thoughie. Obviously, there will be all sorts of conflict wit this. (Not for me, of course. Wimmin will be flocking to my Greek-Godlike body. ) I think we should just respect the wishes of the women folk. And quietly sob.

	19-02-2002 00:25									#244
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Well, let's look at the problems: -Everyone has his or her own view on how to run things. -No tools. -10:1 Man-woman ratio. Proposed Solutions: -Create a "Grand Council" of ten leaders, with the Mods and Admins filling up most of the spots. The remainders will be filled by election. (Not a winner-take all election) -Obviously, make them. -This is a thoughie. Obviously, there will be all sorts of conflict wit this. (Not for me, of course. Wimmin will be flocking to my Greek-Godlike body. ) I think we should just respect the wishes of the women folk. And quietly sob.

why should the mods/admins get the top spots

there should be votes for everyone

and benifits go the tool makers/ women

Jon Millere

	19-02-2002 01:16									#245
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I reckon it might start out all nice and loveydovey with communes and working together for the greater good. But that won't last. Without technology and healthcare were back to the scenario where the strong survive and the weak are subjugated. With strong I mean strong of mind and body, just one won't be enough. Someone like me for example .

The strong will take the lion share of the food and thus grow even stronger. Think something like a troupe of baboons.

As for the whole women thing, you guys are really rather obsessed with that. Simple solution, only the alpha male gets reproductive rights. Sorry kids .

	19-02-2002 01:20									#246
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For a real-life example of a "Lord of the flies" scenarion, check out "Batavia's Graveyard" by Mike Dash. Very brutal and nasty account of shipwreck and mutiny.

	19-02-2002 01:50									#247
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It better not be a hot island, I burn easily.

	19-02-2002 02:20									#248
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A quasi serious analysis.

Control of rare resources is the key.
If everything is abundant exept women, that would determine things. After reading most of the threads here, it seem a general concensus that most of the posters would not willingly force themselves on a woman.

SO, there would be two ruling classes.
1. The women would head up the first group since they control the most rare resource. But they would be hard pressed to find time to rule.
2. The old timers, who are not controlled by their other heads. But they too would be hard pressed to find time to rule since they would spend all their time trying to fashion a five iron out of bamboo.

RAH

	19-02-2002 02:32									#249
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Women would hold power over all non-homosexuals/bisexuals. We would be the only free ones

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But unless there was only one of you on the island. You'd be too busy to rule also.

RAH

	19-02-2002 02:47									#251
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Can I bring a city with me?

	19-02-2002 02:49									#252
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I don't care, I'm still working on the 5 iron.




RAH

	19-02-2002 02:52									#253
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Hopefully this island would be a floating island, similar to the one on "Noah's Island". We could then get an orangutan to steer it towards the nearest shore, at which point I'd get off and call in the airforce to bomb it back to...oh, I don't know, the Age of Aquarius.

	19-02-2002 03:09									#254
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Now who would really want to be on Island with ME?

	19-02-2002 03:13									#255
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quote: Originally posted by Evan von Christoph Now who would really want to be on Island with ME?

	19-02-2002 04:25									#256
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Me, of course. You'd feed me a week at least.

	19-02-2002 04:34									#257
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Actually, if the women tried to use their er....resources....to gain power, they'd probably, eventually, be forced into...er...sharing...their resources.

Sad but true

Wow, there's an angle...women prove to be the downfall of society! Some men attempt to boink them, others attempt to protect them!

	19-02-2002 04:36									#258
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rah- that golf stuff was brilliant. Sink a beer and pretend I bought it for you.

	19-02-2002 04:47									#259
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That state of affairs would only last until one side our the other could acquire the services of MtG as military advisor and after that you can look at the Spanish Civil war as an example of what will happen to che's socialist state.

You forget there will be no German intervention. Without that, the Left would have won.

	19-02-2002 05:34									#260
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune You forget there will be no German intervention. Without that, the Left would have won.

So, no Germans on the Island then?

	19-02-2002 05:46									#261
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar So, no Germans on the Island then?

Apolyton Germans are Lefties, not Nazis; so even worse for the Capitalist Party.

	19-02-2002 05:52									#262
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue I reckon it might start out all nice and loveydovey with communes and working together for the greater good. But that won't last. Without technology and healthcare were back to the scenario where the strong survive and the weak are subjugated. With strong I mean strong of mind and body, just one won't be enough. Someone like me for example .

We have healthcare. We have Dr Strangelove and Docfeelgood to attend to our every medical need

	19-02-2002 09:06									#263
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The rarest resource will be fresh clean water. Unless this is a mighty big island with at least two all-season rivers, who ever controls the water supply will be in control.

On second thought, I'll have my SO bring me a whole truckload of tools.

	19-02-2002 09:08									#264
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The rarest resource will be fresh clean water. Unless this is a mighty big island with at least two all-season rivers, who ever controls the water supply will be in control.

Well, I did say abundant resources. Water is to be assumed

Also consider rain water and water that can be derived by desalinization.

	19-02-2002 09:09									#265
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quote: Originally posted by orange Well, I did say abundant resources. Water is to be assumed Also consider rain water and water that can be derived by desalinization.

2 ways of desalinization: distillation and reverse osmosis.

We wouldn't have enough tech for the 2nd, and stills would already be in use

	19-02-2002 09:11									#266
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Distillation of course

	19-02-2002 09:23									#267
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Has anybody else seen the hand-powered portable desalination pump somebody invented for inclusion on lifeboats? Really neat principle, involving the motion of salt ions through a static magnetic field.

	19-02-2002 09:35									#268
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That state of affairs would only last until one side our the other could acquire the services of MtG as military advisor and after that you can look at the Spanish Civil war as an example of what will happen to che's socialist state.

Why do you assume the military types would all join you? If there were a split, I can imagine a few might side with you, and a few would side with us or alternatively, they would withdraw from the stupidity until both sides came to their senses and began to cooperate again, assuming they aren't rat bastards who would try to force all the rest of us to be their slaves.

quote: Always remember the power of the Apolyton Evil Capitalist Conservatives Party. We can afford to pay for the very best.

With what currancy? Money has no value anymore.

	19-02-2002 09:36									#269
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This island is only big enough for the FreeDrones. You bloody Morganites go find your own island.

	19-02-2002 10:05									#270
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Why do you assume the military types would all join you?

Shhhh! Donīt make them aware of my secret diplo strategy. I will forge an alliance with the Militarists and the Church, like I always do in 'Tropico'. There are no real conflicts of interest, and a lot of synergies: We Leftists supply the masses and the education, the Militarists supply their tactical knowledge and the punch, and the Religious the spiritual guiding.

Our total cultural and military superiority will leave the few unrepentant Capitalists hopelessly isolated, so the only question is what to do with them? On a totally different note: Didnīt someone say the island is surrounded by shark-infested waters?