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Kaak
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sorry bugs, but the PI i've got following you took the weekend off. Seriously. You know who you are and what you do. I don't have to read your mind and commit it to type.
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devilmunchkin
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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001 time: 05:17
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quote: As for me being such a terrible person, I would venture to say that overall, I do fewer BAD things than any of those who are chastizing me. So, you in turn are hypocrits. |
you should learn to back up such statements.
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Asher
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Nov 1999 time: 22:17
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak
Drinking impairs judgement. If people only had a single drink, it would be one thing. That, however is not the case. Drinking and driving is the leading killer in the US. |
Let's see.
I've never killed anyone while drunk.
I never drink and drive.
Drinking is fine as long as you can still have some kind of logical thought. It's also fine when you plan ahead and select designated drivers and call taxis and the like.
Basically, it's fine as long as you're not stupid. Same with driving. Driving is bad because of all the accidents that happen, etc. 
quote: Drugs are bad for a variety of reasons, if you think otherwise, you are a fool. |
I'll remind the hospital you said that if you ever need morphine. 
quote: Smoking does hurt others, and is quite bothersome. |
Sure, I agree there. That's why I don't like smoking. Smoking is BadTM.
quote: A million things can fall in to that category as it is quite broad. I do very few things that do. Can you say the same, honestly? |
You have premarital sex. Not only are you at risk for STDs, you can impregnate someone without the bond of marriage. You have sinned, and you will join me in hell for that.
I don't do anything bad, because I don't need to rely on other's morals to tell me what I should or should not do. I know it's wrong to kill someone, I know it's wrong to drink and drive, I know it's wrong to put down a minority and "dislike" them because they're different. Evidently your brain hasn't evolved as such, and you've still got the old fashioned style of thinking where you need a church to define your morals and brainwash you into thinking anyone who disagrees with the church is wrong and will "go to hell".
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gay men are men who like men.
nothing wrong with that and if they want their spirits lifted I recommend they read "Symposium" by Plato.
The thing that sometimes bothers me a bit is when they say it over and over again. I'm GAY, I'm GAY GAY GAY GAY! Hey good for you but why cry it all over town?
I can only imagine that's because being gay is a large part of who they are.
But OTOH being straight is a larg epart of who we are too so you can't point the finger.
And since our society is 90% or so straight maybe that's why they say it over and over again.
In any case gay people seem to have done a lot more of soul searvhing than the rest pf us.
That's not necessairily good though.
So in the end all it counts is individual personality and values.
If you're a SOB then that's what you are, gay or straight no difference. If you are an ok guy the same.
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Dr Strangelove
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Sorry! (DP)
Last edited by Dr Strangelove on 24-02-2002 at 08:00
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devilmunchkin
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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001 time: 05:17
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are we going to have to get into a debate over what is "bad" and what isn't???
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Kaak
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quote: I'd just like to know what real life experience lets Mr. Dilettante here sit in lofty judgement of his intellectual superiors |
Sneak: I don't know what you consider intellectual superiority, but if you're talking about IQ, their are few on this board who can compare.
You are making ad hominem comments because you are biased, and strongly disagree with my opinions.
MrFun, no need to post it again, everyone saw it the first time and didn't think it was funny.
quote: premarital sex is as bad as gay sex. |
Umm..1. I disagree, even if you want to pretend all sins are equal, premarital sex is 1 sin. gay sex is two (premarital, and the fact that it is homosexual...)
Stranglove: i'm sorry you felt like i was addressing you. I didn't realize you were perfect. How old are you again?
Asher, kudos for being able to hold your alchohol. I wish everyone were so self controlled...
quote: Incidentally, what do you do at those frat parties? Sip milky tea and mildly criticise Liberace? |
Nah, it's usually gatoraide or apple juice. parties are also good for socializing and dancing, in case you didn't know.
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000 time: 07:17
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Perhaps Kaak isn't very "enlightened" or "open minded" but he's honest to himself and others, and feels no obligation to conform to popular views (you MUST love everyone etc.)
While I don't hate any specific group of individuals, i think that disliking people is ok, while you don't actively do something about it.
From what I get he isn't actually doing anything to hurt gays nor will he ever do, as he tries to steer his life away from gay people.
A scenraio which could result in discrimination is if, say, he has to hire a homosexual or work with one, or serve one or what ever. I hope Kaak will be able to outgrow his personal dislike and treat them just like anyone else, while, perhaps choosing not to socialise with them. That would be acceptable. If he does discriminate against them, it would be bad.
I can honestly say that I do not descriminate against any group of individuals. While I may personally dislike a person and choose not to spend time with them, I treat them just as fairly and honestly as I treat others and even my friends.
That has also sometimes brought along some conflicts, when friends expected to have special treatment from me, when I was in position of power (floating voice / manager).
But proudly I say, I keep treating people quite fairly and irrelevant to my personal liking or disliking with them.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999 time: 22:17
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov
While I don't hate any specific group of individuals, i think that disliking people is ok, while you don't actively do something about it. |
Disliking people is okay, I don't like everyone myself.
But I don't make that judgement based upon their sexuality, color, religion, etc.
I get to know people for who they are as people, and then decide if I like them or not.
quote: From what I get he isn't actually doing anything to hurt gays nor will he ever do, as he tries to steer his life away from gay people. |
Once he leaves his sheltered preschool-esque life at Baylor and steps into the real world, he'll have to work with gay people. And if he lives this sheltered life always thinking that gays are deviant people who he doesn't like by default, he's going to end up hurting people whether he means to or not.
quote: I can honestly say that I do not descriminate against any group of individuals. While I may personally dislike a person and choose not to spend time with them, I treat them just as fairly and honestly as I treat others and even my friends.
That has also sometimes brought along some conflicts, when friends expected to have special treatment from me, when I was in position of power (floating voice / manager).
But proudly I say, I keep treating people quite fairly and irrelevant to my personal liking or disliking with them. |

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