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laurentius
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Helsinki, Finland
Jun 2001 time: 07:18
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov
who said we're rightwing?
just because we refuse to sit back and watch israelis being slaughtered we're right wing?
quote: and one of the urges me to list all the news sources ever that I've got my information from.... |
why does that scare you? 
It was a qeustion.
quote: Since I have been declared a evil, misconducted anti-semitist, I think I'll pass the sword to next reasonable apolytoner to defend the palestinian rights too. |
No where did you defend palestinian rights in your posts.
You simply attacked Israeli rights - the right to defend oneself.
Your first post here was a declaration of your rejoicing over Israeli deaths, and how we are a disgrace to you.
great "discussion". 
And I know for the life of me, that i tried to talk to you on topic.
You chose to ignore it, repeatedly.
And when you finally responded to one post with a is when I became mad.
No one blamed you, until you began acting hypocritically.
But you like to be the victim. So fine, go away. |
I tried to talk, no, didnt work got loads of dirt on my back. Are you really so self-righteous down the that you feel personally threatened by my disagreement of your palestinian blood-fests?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000 time: 07:18
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QUOTE] Originally posted by laurentius
Ohhoh! So until this day you havent killed more than 20 terrorists, damn my news resources are truly inadequate.
Come on you knew I was talking about this whole Palestinian-Israeli issue. And as Siro says, Its the Intentions that shine through your apartheid-policies. [/QUOTE]
Sorry. I was wrong. I should have said :
"says the man who compares the killing of 800 people, 90% of whom were involved in fighting, in a year and a half of conflict to the mass murder of 6 million defenseless men, women and children only because they were Jews".
Anyway, I want to show you 3 future suicide bombers. Educated by the Palestinian Authority. Money provided by the European Union.
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Eli
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Jul 2000 time: 07:18
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Freedom fighter number 2:
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Eli
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Jul 2000 time: 07:18
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Courageous warrior for peace number 3:
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000 time: 07:18
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quote: Originally posted by CyberGnu
Siro, I only have a short free moment while my advisor reads through my thesis, so I'm not gonna stick around to argue. But you again completely misrepresented my views.
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Welcome to the ME thread 
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I don't support killing innocents. My opposition to Israel is based on my hatred of this very thing.
However, no Israeli is innocent. |
Ok fine.
I'll restate:
You support killing civilians based on their inaction/support.
If I had used that logic I would had to support killing about 80% of the palestinian population. Which I don't.
Also, using your logic, the 9/11 terract was justified because those 4,000 people were as guilty of american war crimes and opression of other countries, as any american general.
Needless to say, I completely don't support that view point.
quote: And so, just like we applaud the actions of the French resistance or the Polish partisans I applaud the efforts of the palestinians to resist the occupation. |
Natan has a nice point.
I never heard of the French resistance targeting little children at disco parties and such.
quote: So please, don't accuse me of wanting to kill innocents. That position is reserved for the Israeli army. |
Who'se making wild accusations now? 
Fine. I'll call them civilians.
I claim that civilians are by defenition innocent and not viable targets in any kind of war, except ethnic cleansing.
You support ethnic cleansing is due against the Israelis?
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000 time: 07:18
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
If you have a good Haider cartoon, by all means post it. IŽll add it to my collection. |
Post your collection of haider cartoons first.
quote: (You seem to have a sort of idee fixe that IŽm a fan of Haider; very far from true. But I donŽt blame you, since you have no idea of Austrian politics. |
You're right.
I forgot you support innocent man loving Saddam Hussein, as you posted in a previous thread.
How could I? 
quote: Fyi, though: In general, the Austrian Right is more pro-Israel than the Austrian Left; given the fact that Sharon is a Fascist, that makes a lot of sense. |
Sharon isn't a fascist.
Not by the defenition of fascism nor by any other standards.
He is a right wing, and supports a good crack down when one is needed.
But I read recently that he called for talks with the palestinians back in 74, so he's not as palestinian hating as you'd think 
quote: I have no idea where Haider stands concerning Israel, but I wouldnŽt at all be surprised if he is more pro-Israel than I.) |
You're wrong here.
He's very pro-arab. Todays anti-semites are all pro-arab. And many arabs are pro-antisemites.
Palestinian leaders met with hitler in his time. Were supportive of his goal, and iirc were quoted to say words of support for his attempts to rid of jews.
Sadly Israeli extremists tried to arrange a meeting too. They thought Hitler might help Israel against Britain. I'm sure hitler would have loved "liberating" israel, but for other purposes than they thought.
I guess every era has it's own Yossi Belin type guys who met with the enemy and were convinced they were friends.
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