05-03-2002 04:22									#1
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Now I have nothing against gays, but why do they need a gay week? It's not as if we have a dedicated week for straight people. The Union was horrendous tonight...full of lisps and funny hand movements.

So if they're calling this week "Queer and Here", I believe next week we deserve equality and a week of "It's Great to be Straight".

	05-03-2002 04:23									#2
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i fully agree

	05-03-2002 04:24									#3
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Reminds me of when a kid asks "Why is there a mother's day, and a father's day, but never a kid's day?"

	05-03-2002 04:24									#4
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A thread of Dookie's in which I agree with everything said! Wonders never cease.

	05-03-2002 04:24									#5
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Poor Troll. Kaak already did this but better. 3/10

	05-03-2002 04:25									#6
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Let them have their fun, they aren't asking you to join in after all.

Besides the main purpose of events like this is to bring attention to their cause, that homosexuality is here and is staying. Heterosexuals do not need the same opportunities to forward their cause. Same with women's lib and men's lib. The latter is totally unnecessary as men have been the dominant gender on the planet for a long time...

	05-03-2002 04:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Let them have their fun, they aren't asking you to join in after all.

They can have their fun just so long as they don't start canoodling over the pool table.

quote: Besides the main purpose of events like this is to bring attention to their cause, that homosexuality is here and is staying.

For what reason therefore does their cause need attention if it is no longer threatened?

quote: Heterosexuals do not need the same opportunities to forward their cause.

Homosexuals don't really either.

quote: Same with women's lib and men's lib. The latter is totally unnecessary as men have been the dominant gender on the planet for a long time...

What has happened in the past surely is irrelevant. That we can all enjoy equality now, regardless of the past, is what matters. Having gay weeks, or black weeks, or female weeks just threatens the very equality that has been strived for.

	05-03-2002 04:35									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's They can have their fun just so long as they don't start canoodling over the pool table.

Yes, they wouldn't want your cue to be 'chalked' too would they?

quote: For what reason therefore does their cause need attention if it is no longer threatened? What has happened in the past surely is irrelevant. That we can all enjoy equality now, regardless of the past, is what matters. Having gay weeks, or black weeks, or female weeks just threatens the very equality that has been strived for.

Well there is still a lot of homophobia present in this society believe it or not, and until very, very recently, homosexuality was not accepted by law, or far more restricted than heterosexuality, and people need to be educated. And also to send out a presence, that those who are 'still in the closet' should feel safe to come out, that there are people in the same situation. Relatively speaking, their movement is still in an early stage. As opposed to Women's Lib, which is not as needed as in the past, and hence, is far less active nowadays, because there just isn't the same need for it. I hope one day that too will be the same for homosexuals.

	05-03-2002 04:39									#9
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not feeling a wee bit repressed are we Bod? you did have a traumatic experience with that "slut" who was dancing close to you last week, you could be on the turn!

	05-03-2002 04:41									#10
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If you listen quietly night in the direction of Aberystwyth, you can hear a rustling in the closet

	05-03-2002 04:41									#11
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Once again Infat proves what a completley insecure little ****er he really is.

The gay week is clearly a thing of fun, but then you are the kind of person who complains when a girl flirts with you

quote: Originally posted by Boddington's They can have their fun just so long as they don't start canoodling over the pool table.

Don't gay people have just as much right to make out in public places?

quote: For what reason therefore does their cause need attention if it is no longer threatened?

Most homoseuxals will experience abuse in their lifetime, a significant number will be physically attacked.

quote: Homosexuals don't really either.

Gay people do not have equal rights.

quote: What has happened in the past surely is irrelevant. That we can all enjoy equality now, regardless of the past, is what matters. Having gay weeks, or black weeks, or female weeks just threatens the very equality that has been strived for.

What planet do you live on again?

	05-03-2002 04:41									#12
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Actually I spoke to her yesterday and she ain't that bad, just had a few too much to drink...

	05-03-2002 04:46									#13
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A "It's great to be straight" week may mean something after heterosexuals spend a couple decades fighting for equal rights.

	05-03-2002 04:47									#14
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon : Don't gay people have just as much right to make out in public places?

so many people profess to 'being ok' about homosexuals, but think it's disgusting if two men kiss in public.

i go to a 'gay' club in Liverpool a lot (Garlands) because the music is good and the attitude relaxed, but a lot of the straight men who go for the same reasons can't handle men kissing!! it's a gay club, where do they want them to make out?

	05-03-2002 04:48									#15
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Once again Infat proves what a completley insecure little ****er he really is. The gay week is clearly a thing of fun, but then you are the kind of person who complains when a girl flirts with you

It wasn't just flirting

And there is an LGB Society, and I don't mind that, but this is just too in-your-face. I'm not the only one who dislikes it.

quote: Don't gay people have just as much right to make out in public places?

Yeah, where did I say they didn't?

quote: Most homoseuxals will experience abuse in their lifetime, a significant number will be physically attacked.

I bet most heterosexuals will be attacked too.

It's weeks like this "Here and Queer" that make them get attacked. If they went about their own business without forcing their sexuality in other people's faces, a lot less attacks would happen.

(Not that I condone the attacks or anything)

quote: Gay people do not have equal rights.

They do.

quote: What planet do you live on again?

Earth.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Actually I spoke to her yesterday and she ain't that bad, just had a few too much to drink...

go for it, tiger!!!

	05-03-2002 04:50									#17
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever so many people profess to 'being ok' about homosexuals, but think it's disgusting if two men kiss in public.

There's no hypocrisy there.

quote: i go to a 'gay' club in Liverpool a lot (Garlands) because the music is good and the attitude relaxed, but a lot of the straight men who go for the same reasons can't handle men kissing!! it's a gay club, where do they want them to make out?

Well if I went to a gay club which I will never do then I wouldn't be offended, but throwing it in your face and thinking it's just a week of fun is highly offensive.

	05-03-2002 04:51									#18
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OK then I guess I'll just use my equal rights to go get married shall I?

Also, according to British and American law, a murder charge can be reduced to manslaughter if you killed a gay person who hit on you. This happened in Wyoming when someone beat up tied a gay person to a tree for 5 days until he died and got manslaughter.

Eqaul? I'd love to see your definition of unequal.

	05-03-2002 04:51									#19
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quote: My Uni Has A Gay Week Going On

They must have stolen the idea from Apolyton.

	05-03-2002 04:52									#20
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And those openminded ones who posted saying they agreed with me, can you keep on posting please rather than letting me get all the stick as usual.

	05-03-2002 04:54									#21
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I re-iterate I am not against gays. I have several queer friends, and so long as they keep their sexuality to themselves it's ok.

quote: Originally posted by red_jon OK then I guess I'll just use my equal rights to go get married shall I? Also, according to British and American law, a murder charge can be reduced to manslaughter if you killed a gay person who hit on you. This happened in Wyoming when someone beat up tied a gay person to a tree for 5 days until he died and got manslaughter. Eqaul? I'd love to see your definition of unequal.

Those are just hypothetical situations and probably never happened. Or there are facts you have conveniently ignored in order to make your point.

	05-03-2002 04:55									#22
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i would but 1-handed typing is rather hard as you can probably imagine

	05-03-2002 04:56									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I re-iterate I am not against gays. I have several queer friends, and so long as they keep their sexuality to themselves it's ok.

And they stay your friends?! I'd ram it in your face for sure.

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Feel an urge to get some fresh air, and get out from underneath that bridge again Stew

If you actually look around Stew, no one is forcing their sexuality on anyone. All they are doing is demanding they are respected for who they are and shouldn't be persecuted for who they are, and for that, a presence must be made clear and felt, so people like you do understand that there are gays in every walk of life, in every environment and in every place. Would you like it is someone asked you to restrain from holding hands or kissing your girlfriend in a public place (hypothetically of course). It's a very valid point...the simple issue is, let people be. You've been down a similar road before Stew relating to people who decide they don't want to dress as you do, who want to be a bit more outlandish with how they dress, and that you have not been surprised by any violence expressed towards them, and in some ways, quite supportive of it. So you need to get some issues sorted out in your mind. See the person, not the sexuality, or the clothing...I wish such horrid judgementalism would die in our society.

	05-03-2002 04:58									#25
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Here's my outlook on it:

If everyone's treated equally and fairly, there should be no special occasions celebrating that minority.

But as is the case in most places, Homosexuals still have some problems with acceptance (although it's apparently much better over there in Europe). The reason why they have things like Gay Week is to get all of the people together and rally eachother for support, to bring spirits up. It's not fun being in a minority. So I see nothing wrong with that.

However, if and when the day comes where nobody gives a damn if somebody is gay or if somebody is straight, then I would be really against those types of rallies as they just tend to annoy me.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I re-iterate I am not against gays. I have several queer friends, and so long as they keep their sexuality to themselves it's ok.

it's because of attitudes like that, that they feel the need to have a gay week!!

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I re-iterate I am not against gays. I have several queer friends, and so long as they keep their sexuality to themselves it's ok.

But of course it would be quite acceptable for you to get off with a female in front of homosexuals. Don't you think they would be offended? Hypocrisy

	05-03-2002 04:59									#28
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quote: If they went about their own business without forcing their sexuality in other people's faces, a lot less attacks would happen.

So be the good little silent invisible minority demographic, a nice sanitary section of the population pie chart, instead of saying "we exist"?

We get one week to "force" our sexuality on people. You guys get the rest of the year to kiss, hug, hold hands, flirt, tease, joke, gossip, and do the other myriad of different things that force your heterosexuality in our faces.

	05-03-2002 05:01									#29
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever it's because of attitudes like that, that they feel the need to have a gay week!!

Then they just inviting attacks on themselves surely?

We decided to leave the Union early tonight. We've been going every Monday night for games, and yet we're made to feel like outsiders.

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i WILL say that i find pda repulsive no matter who is involved...