15-03-2002 01:35									#1
	Saudi newspaper: Jews are using blood of our children for holiday pastries! Put an end to popups!

Look, I wish that was only exaggerations about what that Saudi paper published, like it was only modestly anti-Israel and I just used hyperbole to make it look like they're insane, but here we go.

Blood libel makes a comeback. How lovely. What next, evil Jews are poisoning our wells?

	15-03-2002 01:37									#2
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I think it's wrong and that they shouldn't use children's blood for pastries.

	15-03-2002 01:45									#3
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I think if they killed the children fair and square they can use the blood of the dead children any way they want to.

	15-03-2002 01:47									#4
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Damn Eli, thats not nice...please use it for other purposes...

	15-03-2002 01:52									#5
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But it's tasty.

	15-03-2002 01:57									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Eli But it's tasty.

Come on Eli youve already got the Golan Heights now youve got to have our childrens blood as well.

	15-03-2002 02:01									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Eli But it's tasty.

But is it kosher?

	15-03-2002 02:10									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij But is it kosher?

Should have seen that coming

	15-03-2002 02:13									#9
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I personally am appalled.

Nlood in pastries? Don't you Israelis know it goes better in stew?

	15-03-2002 03:24									#10
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Or pudding.

	15-03-2002 08:10									#11
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Or pudding.

When I lived in Sweden, I had "Reindeer Blood Pancakes" once.


Yum.

	15-03-2002 08:14									#12
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Damn, that's why matza is so good.

	15-03-2002 08:17									#13
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where's the vomit smiley when you need it? STEFU!!

	15-03-2002 08:21									#14
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Mmmmmmmmmm... pastry.....

American soldiers are making soup stock out of Afghani children... but only the bad ones.

	15-03-2002 09:22									#15
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Nice, one-sided website you found there, Stefu. While purporting be independent and fair, one can't help but notice that it only looks at Arabic and Iranian sources for critique. I see no mention of any Israeli bullsh*t propaganda.

Not to excuse the blood of children in food bullsh*t, but then, the Israelis are killing rather a lot of Palestinian children. Perhaps it's meant to be metaphorical?

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The Saudi press is behind the times. At the last meeting of the Elders of Zion, the blood libel was scrapped. The ingredients of matzo still include sweat and tears.

	15-03-2002 10:01									#17
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Nice, one-sided website you found there, Stefu. While purporting be independent and fair, one can't help but notice that it only looks at Arabic and Iranian sources for critique. I see no mention of any Israeli bullsh*t propaganda.

Are you arguing that the translations are inaccurate?

quote: Not to excuse the blood of children in food bullsh*t, but then, the Israelis are killing rather a lot of Palestinian children. Perhaps it's meant to be metaphorical?

Seemed rather intricate for that, no?

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I'm not saying they are, but I am raising the possibility that this website may be gasp! biased, and its translations less than objective.

Since I don't know Arabic of Farsi all that well (read: not at all), I can't say one way or another.

I'd be more likely to take them at their word if they were as critical of Israeli news.

	15-03-2002 11:52									#19
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I bet this site is israeli

	15-03-2002 12:57									#20
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Hell, Ariel Sharon is the webmaster

	15-03-2002 12:59									#21
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara While purporting be independent and fair, one can't help but notice that it only looks at Arabic and Iranian sources for critique.

Cant you understand why?

	15-03-2002 14:12									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar When I lived in Sweden, I had "Reindeer Blood Pancakes" once. Yum.

Actually, it called "palt" or "Pitepalt" (from the village of Piteå.)

	15-03-2002 14:16									#23
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you eat one and your body feels like lead, perfect crowd control

	15-03-2002 14:37									#24
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'm not saying they are, but I am raising the possibility that this website may be gasp! biased, and its translations less than objective. Since I don't know Arabic of Farsi all that well (read: not at all), I can't say one way or another. I'd be more likely to take them at their word if they were as critical of Israeli news.

There are a number of dubias sites out there all suspiciously showing arabs to be minds bigots. Its part of the hearts and minds war. Like the Anti defamation League in the US that is used to shut anyone up who is remotely anti Israeli. Of course these things eventually do more harm to their own side then anyone else.

	15-03-2002 15:16									#25
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Find a translation mistake in this site.

Or you could just keep living in illusions concerning the Arab media.

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I read in today´s newspaper that Saudi religiuos police stopped young women to leave a burning house because they didn´t wear their abayas, a cloth which covers the whole body. 15 of the women died. Link: http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast...reut/index.html

	15-03-2002 16:04									#27
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Aren't the Jews forbidden to eat anything with blood? Isn't that impure?
And shouldn't the Arabs be forbidden too?

	15-03-2002 16:29									#28
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I have to say that, if the reported writing was trully done by an Arab is a sad demonstration of biggotry from the person that wroted it and the editorial board that allowed it to be printed (and most likely from the authorities, if they didn't public criticized this kind of actions).

The problem is that, in a first glance of the site, as chegitz points out, we don't find a single reference to Israel which is strange in a self-proclamed non-partizan, unbiased information center. In the archives you actually find a few (less than 10 in a page full of others). I suppose one is to expect that, because they search news from all ME Countries so the proportion is srongly against Israel.

Another problem is that I couldn't find any reference to News that would point out to some Hope in all this process. If all the facts were to be consensed in these archives, one would be forced to expect there is no hope.

A final point is that, a survey of the articles, even those related to Israel shows that MEMRI is definetly one-sided and partizan. Basicly all references to Arab articles are references of hate speeches and all references to Israelli articles are basicly against Arafat and the Peace effort.

It all comes to say that it is not because one institution praclaims to be unbaised that it is. As Christ said, we have to know a tree by the fruit it gives. The "fruits" of this site are simple hatred, distrust and a sense of hopelessness. Just what the Peace process needs, right now.

The point here is that, even if everything there is true, by showing only a part of the truth simply promotes a lie.

	15-03-2002 16:41									#29
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The Memri article is a very good example of classical propaganda. The article is filled with details of how the blood is spilled from the body, which draw attention from the main point - that nothing is true in the first place. The Nazis used similar propaganda on the Jews during the 30s.

	15-03-2002 17:33									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Ecowiz Returns all references to Israelli articles are basicly against Arafat and the Peace effort.

Maybe because there is nothing more radical than that in the Israeli newspapers?