17-03-2002 05:14									#1
	Proposed New Diplo Game (USA Sat nights) Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

This thread is to discuss game settings...

1x1x

Random seems to be the go

Max 3 cities captured per turn

	17-03-2002 05:23									#2
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NO max 3 cities. And use small map so the game will go resonable fast. Forbid wonders...

	17-03-2002 05:35									#3
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I'm in need of a new dip game.

	17-03-2002 05:38									#4
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I'll play in the time slot, and after putting the weight of the last 2 diplo games on my back, I think I'll take a back seat in this one, but I'll provide the skills for any mods that people want.

	17-03-2002 05:57									#5
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Small to medium map is good...

Maybe a "one wonder per Civ" game would be in order...
Choose your wonder.

I like the 3 cities per turn rule... Gives the attacked Civ (and his alliances) a chance to react.

	18-03-2002 05:53									#6
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I'd be into it...............if there is a place for me let me know!!

	18-03-2002 12:55									#7
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Can I play with you some more Deity.

	18-03-2002 18:35									#8
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If anyone is interested in playing a scenario for a Diplo-game, I have one entitled "Age of Imperialism".

It's on a large map, 1x1, set in 1871. I have playtested it several times with other players, and have set a few ground rules already that would be incorporated into the game:

The only bribing (unless it's piracy) allowed would be your own cities that were lost to another civ. No unit bribing.

No attacking when you have a peace treaty. YOu must first cancel the peace treaty (a turn prior) and then attack.

Piracy is allowed on transports only. No bribing of warships. Piracy is not a declaration of war, but is obviously grounds for retaliation.

Once the League of Nations is built, the player owning can stop a war with a majority vote from all of the players. The warring players can choose to ignore this rule, but at the risk of international isolation. You are also the game's land commisioner, allowing players to expand to new colonization areas.

Once the U.N. is built, the owning player is the commisioner of war reparations and peace treaties. The owning player also can form impromptu peacekeeping alliances, which DO NOT follow the rules of war.

Only three cities per turn may be taken by any civ at war. Other cities may be attacked, but not taken.


These are just a few of the mods I have made. If you want to perhaps try this scenario out as a diplo-game, let me know.

	19-03-2002 02:03									#9
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I was talking to DeityDude and he and I would be avaliable almost any day for a game....so let us know......feel free to contact my via ICQ or AIM...........

	19-03-2002 03:56									#10
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Deity:

I'd actually be more interested in the weeknite one you were thinking about. Usually too many family obligations to commit to a weekly Saturday game.

	19-03-2002 04:32									#11
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I'd be interested in playing. But wouldn't mind bein a sub since not very experienced yet

	19-03-2002 05:05									#12
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The only days that are bad for me are Tuesday and Wedsday nites

	20-03-2002 08:50									#13
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The list so far:

Dangime (FJ)
Hydey [proposed HOST]
Flat Fox
Berzerker
Dank
Makeo (I think he soid it on icq)
deity

My goodness, we have seven!

Subs & Others:

fodder (but not free for two weeks)
Forty-Three

OK, we need to vote on map or scn etc.
Fox's modpak is brilliant but way big for MP I think. I'd like to try it out if he scales it back. Sometimes random maps suck but I am sick of the Earth map. What are the best 'conditions' to get a good normal Earth-like random map?
Say,
Normal: 50x80
Deity level
Villages Only??? Stuck with huts unless it's a scn, I think
Landmass Normal?
Arid/Normal??

HELP!

But we must start this USA Sat night 7pm EST?/Aussie Sunday at 11am EDT? Anyway, same as last game!!

If the majority want to go for the Fox Pak instead I'm keen! But I want the Japanese

	20-03-2002 09:20									#14
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It was cool and wet if I remember right.

Also there needs to be some barbarian activity. This will make sure everyone garrisons their cities.

Deity
Normal Map, normal landmass, varied terrain, 4 billion, wet, cool.
1x1x Roaming Tribes?

anyone want to argue with that? Its pretty easy to setup. I guess we just have to restart untill there's a "clean start".

If we have the willing players and the preset time, show up. This game is easy to set up.

If you want some mods however let me know. It's kinda a hassel to distribute, but heck its becoming a habit.

	20-03-2002 10:07									#15
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i'm happy with random map, normal game. i'm the aztecs.

prepare to die

	20-03-2002 10:23									#16
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Sounds good to me......I call the Mongols..hehehehe...I'm gonna add you all to my ICQ list........

	20-03-2002 12:23									#17
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I am happy with franks suggestions and also happy to host if required.

I will take the last civ available , whoever that may be.

	20-03-2002 22:39									#18
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Someone else should probably take my spot, only for the simple fact that I am still trying to push my HUGE modpack, and I will have enough players eventually for it...

So let someone else hop in my spot, and I will sub when needed...


Everybody knows how good I am at that

	21-03-2002 02:28									#19
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Should we wait until after Easter (2 weeks) before starting as I am sure some peoples families may require them over Easter.

	21-03-2002 05:18									#20
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Easter?........whats that? (coming for the Jew)................lol.....whatever you guys want......doesn't matter to me..............

	22-03-2002 02:32									#21
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If Flat Fox is out, then I would be available to take his place.

	22-03-2002 02:43									#22
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Hey Fox, I want in your mod pack also.......if it's on another day then the other ones I'm in......keep me posted

	22-03-2002 03:01									#23
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I tried a few times with the random map generation, and the most earth-like results seem to show up with Large Land Mass, Continents, Temperate Climate, and 4 Billion Years settings.

	22-03-2002 03:43									#24
	OK, Epik is in! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Epik If Flat Fox is out, then I would be available to take his place.

Great to have you aboard Epik.

I think we should still start this weekend (USA Sat night) otherwise my experience suggests you just lose momentum.

We'll give Hydey enough time to finish eating his Easter eggs on our Easter Sunday in Aussie

I tried Dang's settings and they are good. I'll check out Epik's settings soon.

Current line up:
Dangime (FJ)
Hydey [HOST]
Epik
Berzerker
Dank
Makeo
deity

Please confirm if you agree to start this Sat night.

I also want to play in FFoxes Imp pak if it schedules out OK... btw

	22-03-2002 03:53									#25
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What's Sunday morning looking like for you guys?


That is the best time for me right now, as Saturdays I will not ALWAYS be able to play... Or even the afternoons are good for me... Since two of the players are from Europe, we will be looking at an early start...

I'll quit thread jacking now, and count both of you (Deity and Dank) in already...

	22-03-2002 03:59									#26
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I'm good for any time on Saturday.....just let me know when.

	22-03-2002 05:25									#27
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I'll play saturday, normal time right?

	22-03-2002 05:40									#28
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sat. normal time.

	22-03-2002 07:34									#29
	A Diplo with surprise war (as usual) Support Apolyton

This is still a diplo and we should use the 3 city rule (vote on it?)

Also, to eliminate hard feelings later we should agree on no early kills, say pre-1000BC?

No city bribe
Deity level
Roving bands
Random Normal Map (Dang's settings are good)
All Wonders OK
Unit ceding OK but no double moves
Unit bribe OK

Normal civ rules apply if any arguments; along with all the normally accepted things like IRB is OK.

USA Sat night/Aussie Sunday at 11am - same time slot as the old dip game.

	22-03-2002 18:57									#30
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I am in trouble for this Sunday, Wifey wants me to take the family out.
I will try to get out of it but as I am going out on the turps with my mates all day saturday I may be pushing things.