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I am glad she steps out of public speacking. I think it's a step forward for the UK and for Europe and for al
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*End Is Forever*
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Salford, UK
Jan 1970 time: 05:18
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...and about time too. If she still cared about the Conservatives and their electoral success, she'd have shut up long ago. Unfortunately, she still seems to think that she's bigger than the party. I was very glad to see Tim Collins on Question Time say "thankyou, but goodnight"; maybe we can actually move forward now.
And a few comments...
Stefu,
quote: This has made me wonder - visceral hate Brits, at least on this forum, seem to feel against Maggie Thatcher seems to eclipse even American far-right-wing hatred against Clintons. What's the cause? |
Some bear genuine political grudges; there's no doubt she did some pretty awful things during her tenure. I'd put Alex into this catagory. However, it's definitely become "cool to hate" Thatcher.
B*B,
quote: 3.5 million unemployed, even after they'd cooked the books. |
There's no doubt that unemployment under Thatcher was much higher that it ought to have been. However, some of the economic reforms put into place, although they caused higher unemployment at the time, have in the medium term been immensely beneficial to the overall prosperity of the nation. In particular, good money after bad was thrown at several dying, inefficient, sunset industries (that employed large numbers despite appalling losses) during the late seventies and this was ended. At the time, this caused a massive rise in unemployment, but how much investment (and new jobs!) were lost because huge sums of money were effectively thrown into a black hole, mainly due to the influence of the Unions?
quote: 2 elections won largely due to sordid colonial sabre-rattling. |
The left have to look at themselves here. Thatcher won two elections because, however bad people might have thought the Conservative policies were, the alternative was far, far, far worse. I shudder at the thought of Michael Foot as Prime Minister, or another four "winters of discontent". It wasn't anyone on the right who described the 1983 Labour manifesto as the "longest suicide note in history", was it?
quote: Poll tax- the most vicious and pointlessly evil tax ever. |
I quite agree. Thatcher was (rightly) deposed after that. It was a hopeless, appalling regressive piece of stupid taxation - that the vast majority of Tories disagreed with as well.
I would be interested to hear what Foot or Kinnock planned to do with the "rates" though. They certainly needed reform, but in the event they were replaced by something far worse. 
quote: Repressive laws passed against "promoting homosexuality" |
Again, I agree completely. Section 28 was a stupid, bigoted law. It was also wholly pointless - vague and unenforceable.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:18
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If you believe in karma, or 'what goes around comes around' or simply hold the notion that one shouldn't make fun of or take advantage of anothers disadvantage and thereby tempt fate then...
You know you're all screwed.
If you don't believe...
Then you'll find out your screwed later.
:Grim reeper smiley:
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