06-12-2002 22:06									#31
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While the release of 1.14 is nearly at hand (Yes, really!) here are some new screenshots of Rafal Bursig's SDL client. This client is going to take a bit longer before it's released. But still...

This is a screenshot of the research dialog with the research goal and the current research listed above.



This is a screenshot the next Technology Selection Dialog

	08-12-2002 05:34									#32
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CAPTVK this is looking sharp !!!!!

	08-12-2002 10:45									#33
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Perhaps an alternative to civ3 MP?

	08-12-2002 11:11									#34
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine Perhaps an alternative to civ3 MP?

I don't think it would be any worse

	08-12-2002 22:45									#35
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yes, the screenshots are prettty, and civ3 is a nightmare right now.....

i need alink Cap!!!!

	09-12-2002 00:04									#36
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quote: Originally posted by HappySunShine Perhaps an alternative to civ3 MP?

At the moment I would put it more as an alternative to Civ2 MP. Freeciv certainly beats PTW on MP but Civ3 still stands head and shoulders above Freeciv in the GFX/SFX at the moment.

But who knows what the future might bring...

	09-12-2002 00:17									#37
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever yes, the screenshots are prettty, and civ3 is a nightmare right now..... i need alink Cap!!!!

The SDLclient is listed on the project page here (but nothing to download yet):

http://www.freeciv.org/projects.phtml


The SDL client isn't ready for release yet. It certainly won't come out before 1.14 is finished. Only the braves, that's developers or savy users who manage to compile it on their own (not easy) get to play with it.

	09-12-2002 00:17									#38
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this work in progress has been going on around 2 years now ? or is it even longer

	09-12-2002 00:20									#39
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever this work in progress has been going on around 2 years now ? or is it even longer

That would be the development for a native Windows client. It actually was running quite well after a year. The SDL client actually started this year. Impressive progress I have to say.

	09-12-2002 04:53									#40
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i agree...i will look into it this week CAPTVK.....thnks again

	09-01-2003 01:03									#41
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Special bulletin!

This truly is a first in Civ history : Freeciv now is the only civ that also supports hexagons. I've just tested it in the windows client and it works.




Large map view (may take a while to load)
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~andrearo/i...-screenshot.png]

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This has been downloaded 91 time(s).

	16-01-2003 18:10									#42
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Wow - this looks seriously impressive - I gather that the early links in this thread have timed out - where can one d/l the latest offering?

SG[1]

	17-01-2003 00:55									#43
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SG,

The link for 1.13 and the 1.14-beta3 can be found here. 1.13 is advised if you want to play regular MP games. If you want to multiplay with the beta other players also need to use that version. Personally I prefer to experiment and learn the ropes with the beta's in SP and play with the new features without going flat on my face

http://www.freeciv.org/download.phtml

	20-01-2003 15:52									#44
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Thanks Cap - will have a look-see

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	24-01-2003 03:32									#45
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Well, 1.14 is out now and the windows binaries (with sounds) also have been posted for download at:

http://www.freeciv.org/download.phtml


If you want to use your Civ2 graphics you'll also need the Civ2gfx utility to convert them to the Freeciv format.

Last edited by CapTVK on 24-01-2003 at 03:37

	24-01-2003 03:42									#46
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Hmmmm...some new screenshots as well for the SDL client 1.14.1

Looks like Rafal has taken a look at Civ3

	25-01-2003 01:21									#47
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Wow, that almost reminds me of the 8bit Nintendo, keep up the good work. By the time civ 5 comes out and you've wasted half your life on a program nobody cares about you might want to invest in some better graphics.

	25-01-2003 03:56									#48
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Nice to see some constuctive criticism from the master.

Keep up the good work eyes

	25-01-2003 05:19									#49
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I take it you came to that conclusion after a long, objective arduous, thorough, complete and well balanced review of all the facets in the game mr. shine?

(I'll dispense with the "Happy" and "Sun" part, nobody cares about that part of your handle anyway)



P.S
Enjoy the game, it's free after all...

	25-01-2003 12:11									#50
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Trust me, I know it's free. I need only look at the graphics. Dork.

	25-01-2003 13:38									#51
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At least they are trying... you aren't

	25-01-2003 14:56									#52
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i quite like it myself, well done cap...dont listen to the detractors...i dont see anyone else doing this sort of thing

	25-01-2003 16:51									#53
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Yeah keep going.

I expect some of these projects will come to nothing, but we only need one classic.

	25-01-2003 20:59									#54
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just out of curiousity, what program is used to do the graphics, i have a map i wish to use for a boardgame i am working on and i want to use a computer to generate the terrain as well to print it out onto a cardboard surface?

	27-01-2003 01:01									#55
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever just out of curiousity, what program is used to do the graphics, i have a map i wish to use for a boardgame i am working on and i want to use a computer to generate the terrain as well to print it out onto a cardboard surface?

War4ever,

Is it going to be a realistic map with mountain ridges, hills, that sort of thing? In that case you could experiment a bit with a fractal landscape generator. After you've generated a few nice shots you could copy the overhead results into a graphic editor and create a full size map. Just by patching the pieces together. A good program to use would be Bryce (I know MarkG has used this on occasion) but there are dozens of other simpler fractal generators available on the web which might serve just as well.

As a graphic editor I like to use an old version PaintShopPro 5 (PSP) or the Gimp. PSP is shareware, the Gimp is free software. Both are more than adequate for these sorts of things.

	27-01-2003 01:03									#56
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Bear in mind that War's machine will break if he asks it to do anything complex.

	29-01-2003 04:28									#57
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Yes, those fractal land generators are PC killers. You have to know how to handle them with care. I once heard about a guy who set a wrong option and got his hand blown clean off when his PC exploded!!! It's all true I tell ya! I read it on the internet!


And now.. back to the thread...

	31-01-2003 03:06									#58
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...time to return to go back on topic with a subject that will come very handy when tweaking a game: "server settings and how to control them"

If you're new to Freeciv you'll usually limit yourselves to playing SP games on the standard settings. The real trick is to change the gamesettings by changing various options in the civserver. Instead of starting straight away you should unselect the "start game automatically"-checkbox. Now you can simply change the settings by entering commands from the chatline with a "/" in front of it.

For example the command: /show would show the current settings:

quote: /show: Option value (min,max) description /show: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ /show: xsize + 40 (40,200) Map width in squares /show: ysize + 40 (25,100) Map height in squares /show: generator + 5 (1,5) Method used to generate map /show: tinyisles +=0 (0,1) Presence or absence of 1x1 islands /show: separatepoles +=1 (0,1) Whether the poles are separate continents /show: landmass +=30 (15,85) Amount of land vs ocean /show: mountains +=30 (10,100) Amount of hills/mountains /show: rivers +=50 (0,1000) Amount of river squares /show: grass +=35 (20,100) Amount of grass squares /show: forests +=20 (0,100) Amount of forest squares /show: swamps +=5 (0,100) Amount of swamp squares /show: deserts +=5 (0,100) Amount of desert squares /show: specials +=250 (0,1000) Amount of "special" resource squares /show: huts +=50 (0,500) Amount of huts (minor tribe villages) /show: minplayers +=1 (1,30) Minimum number of players /show: maxplayers +=30 (1,30) Maximum number of players /show: aifill + 2 (0,30) Number of players to fill to with AI's /show: settlers +=2 (1,10) Number of initial settlers per player /show: explorer +=1 (0,10) Number of initial explorers per player /show: dispersion +=0 (0,10) Area where initial units are located /show: gold +=50 (0,5000) Starting gold per player /show: techlevel +=0 (0,50) Number of initial advances per player /show: researchcost +=10 (4,100) Points required to gain a new advance /show: techpenalty +=100 (0,100) Percentage penalty when changing tech /show: diplcost +=0 (0,100) Penalty when getting tech from treaty /show: conquercost +=0 (0,100) Penalty when getting tech from conquering /show: freecost +=0 (0,100) Penalty when getting a free tech /show: foodbox +=10 (5,30) Food required for a city to grow /show: aqueductloss +=0 (0,100) Percentage food lost when need aqueduct /show: fulltradesize +=1 (1,50) Minimum city size to get full trade /show: notradesize +=0 (0,49) Maximum size of a city without trade /show: unhappysize +=4 (1,6) City size before people become unhappy /show: angrycitizen +=1 (0,1) Whether angry citizens are enabled /show: cityfactor +=14 (6,100) Number of cities for higher unhappiness /show: citymindist +=0 (0,5) Minimum distance between cities (move distance) /show: rapturedelay +=1 (1,99) Number of turns between rapture effect /show: razechance +=20 (0,100) Chance for conquered building destruction /show: civstyle +=2 (1,2) Style of Civ rules /show: occupychance +=0 (0,100) Chance of moving into tile after attack /show: killcitizen +=1 (0,15) Reduce city population after attack /show: wtowervision +=2 (1,3) Range of vision for units in a fortress /show: wtowerevision +=0 (0,2) Extra vision range for units in a fortress /show: citynames +=1 (0,3) Allowed city names /show: barbarians +=2 (0,4) Barbarian appearance frequency /show: onsetbarbs +=-2000 (-4000,5000) Barbarian onset year /show: fogofwar +=1 (0,1) Whether to enable fog of war /show: diplchance +=80 (1,99) Chance in diplomat/spy contests /show: spacerace +=1 (0,1) Whether to allow space race /show: civilwarsize +=10 (6,1000) Minimum number of cities for civil war /show: savepalace +=1 (0,1) Rebuild palace if capital is conquered /show: naturalcitynames +=1 (0,1) Whether to use natural city names /show: autotoggle +=0 (0,1) Whether AI-status toggles with connection /show: endyear +=2000 (-4000,5000) Year the game ends /show: timeout +=0 (40,8639999) Maximum seconds per turn /show: tcptimeout +=10 (0,120) Seconds to let a client connection block /show: netwait +=4 (0,20) Max seconds for TCP buffers to drain /show: pingtimeout +=60 (60,1800) Maximum seconds between PINGs /show: turnblock +=0 (0,1) Turn-blocking game play mode /show: fixedlength +=0 (0,1) Fixed-length turns play mode /show: demography +="NASRLPEMOqrb" What is in the Demographics report /show:

To change settings (e.a setting starting amount for gold) you would type: /set gold 2500. This works the same way for other settings as well.

For help you should type: /help
You can also use the help function to get info on the various commands and gamesettings.

And last but not least, the starting command: /start

Once you enter that you will return to the game menu and you can select your civ.


That's all for Freeciv right now...

Keep on civ'in...

	21-02-2003 02:18									#59
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I thought it might be a good idea to have a live tutorial MP game for Freeciv. We'll organize a MP game with a few regulars who know Freeciv and give newbies a bit of training on the game mechanics while in the game.

I was hoping to organize one sun 23 feb around 13:00 CET. If you're interested to give it a try post in:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=77290

	08-03-2003 01:31									#60
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This idea has popped up on previous occasions but I've never seen it in action. "What if we could play one turn of Civ once a day?" While we all love to play online into to the modern age with tanks and nukes for all this isn't the case in practice. Most MP games don't last longer than a single session. Lag and bad connections can also throw a spanner in the works. You can't stay permanently online in Civ waiting for the rest after a player drops.
Well, some chaps from Poland did figure out a way around this. Coming with the online variant of PBEM in the process. The idea of running a permanent MP game on a server where players simply log on to make their moves for the turn* and increasing the timeout to 24 hours to make one day sessions is my mind a brilliant one. That's because they actually did it and not languish in a "wouldn't it be cool if...."-discussion.


Debate out graphics aside, if there's only one thing speaking for Freeciv it would have to be its versatility.

*Note: All players move at the same time in Freeciv

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=79693

quote: Hi We (civ.org.pl team) would like to start another Freeciv experiment - LongTurn Freeciv. It consist in plaing one big game (30 players?) with 24h timeout. All you need to do is only make 1 round every day. It takes about 2-5 minuts (big map). Of course every player can contact with other players via email or jabber, so diplomatic situation will be more complicated and alliances will be much more important. More info (as always) at http://www.civ.org.pl/freeciv/slow-eng.php Becouse we would like to start game as fast as possible all players that would like to play should inform as via e-mail or forum (forums.civ.org.pl). Remember that you can play even if you don't have much time. All you need is about 5 minuts every day. Regards Adam