25-03-2002 10:46									#1
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Also known as Lord of the Rings got ****ed, as everyone knew it would because members of the academy are morons

	25-03-2002 10:48									#2
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that sucks

people just do not appreciate

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	25-03-2002 10:52									#3
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The film experts and whatever are out of tune with reality - no way in HELL was A Beautiful Mind better than LOTR, no way was Halle Berry better than Sissy Spacek, and absolutely no way Ian McKlellan should have lost for best supporting actor.

	25-03-2002 10:52									#4
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Any other year, LotR would have taken alot more. . . but there were some GREAT movies out this year. . .

	25-03-2002 10:53									#5
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And Beautiful Mind is one of them.

The LOTR geeks are upset because they think that every award should have been given to their movie .

	25-03-2002 10:54									#6
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quote: Any other year, LotR would have taken alot more. . . but there were some GREAT movies out this year. . .

Really? Beautiful Mind was good, I suppose, but Gosford Park was awful, and the only redeeming quality of Moulin Rouge was Nicole Kidman

	25-03-2002 10:55									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui The LOTR geeks are upset because they think that every award should have been given to their movie .

You're just pissed that Harry Potter was nominated.

	25-03-2002 10:57									#8
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quote: You're just pissed that Harry Potter was nominated.

I certainly am, but at least not for anything major

	25-03-2002 10:57									#9
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I would have liked A Beautiful Mind had it actually been accurate.

People should look up what John Nash was really like, particularly about his bisexuality and his runins with the law.

I liked LOTR. It's a fun flick to see. Beautiful Mind is just one of the artsy movies everyone clobbers over at these award shows.

	25-03-2002 10:58									#10
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Let me quote from Reismarks thread, where most everyone who has so far participated in this thread so enthusiastically disagreed with me:

"I'm sorry, but I gotta go against the 'poly crowd on this one. Let me put in in bold so my message shall be heard: There is no way that LoTR is going to win this... no way. Emotionally uninvolving crowd pleasers never win B Picture, even if they do make a lot of money and have a huge influence on the biz (Star Wars, anyone?) OTOH, emotionally manipulative films (Titanic, English Patient), especially those that deal with "diseases" (Rainman, Terms of Endearment) tend to win. Advantage: Beautiful Mind. "

	25-03-2002 11:00									#11
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John - Which is why the Academy is so full of ****, IMO.

	25-03-2002 11:00									#12
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Because your film didn't win?

	25-03-2002 11:01									#13
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No, because they award a bunch of either artsy or PC stuff rather than cool, entertaining stuff.

	25-03-2002 11:03									#14
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Well, ****, when they awarded it to Titanic everybody got pissed off. What are they supposed to do?

	25-03-2002 11:04									#15
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Well, ****, when they awarded it to Titanic everybody got pissed off.

Titanic was niether cool nor entertaining.

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Titanic would not rate as cool and entertaining, except of course the scene where the dude bounces off the propeller

At least they got Braveheart right...

	25-03-2002 11:29									#17
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Even though I'm a big fan of LOTR, I thought A Beautiful Mind was a better movie. However, I thought Peter Jackson should have won for director. Of course, it's tough to split the two, so both go to A Beautiful Mind.

	25-03-2002 11:44									#18
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Somebody pointed out that the Academy awards are a very bad predictor of films that will beocme classics.

	25-03-2002 11:52									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I would have liked A Beautiful Mind had it actually been accurate. People should look up what John Nash was really like, particularly about his bisexuality and his runins with the law. I liked LOTR. It's a fun flick to see. Beautiful Mind is just one of the artsy movies everyone clobbers over at these award shows.

Seen the news, lately?

	25-03-2002 11:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Seen the news, lately?

He's only ever denied being homosexual (duh, the man's married).

He was arrested in a public restroom for some "lewd" behavior many years ago...

	25-03-2002 12:01									#21
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One thing I hate about the academy award is the "we have to give so and so something" syndrome. Honouring Warren Beatty for example.

	25-03-2002 12:09									#22
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I agree with John that David is just mad his film doesn't win.

A film being entertaining has nothing to do with whether it is the Best Picture or not. Star Wars was entertaining, but it isn't even close to being a Best Picture. It's basically a cliched mythic epic that was very fun. Doesn't mean it was good filmmaking (and it really wasn't).

	25-03-2002 12:12									#23
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Star Wars is entertaining?

Star Wars is the worst 9 movies ever made.

George Lucas' best movie was American Graffiti. How sad is that?

	25-03-2002 12:16									#24
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What are you talking about Imran. Truly great movies hardly ever get nominated for Oscars.

	25-03-2002 12:18									#25
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Describe 'truly great movies'

And Asher... yes, Star Wars, one of the most entertaining films of the 20th Century.

	25-03-2002 12:18									#26
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His bisexual tendencies were noted in the book, as were his anti-semitic beliefs, among other things that never made it into the film. Funny thing was, no one--critics, publicists, etc.--never made any mention of the differences.

Matt Drudge blew the lid off that one last week--or was it two weeks ago? In any case, the 'Beautiful Mind' folks had a beautiful fit, saying that Drudge had gone 'too far' and was trying to sabotage their Oscar chances. There was also talk of 'lawsuits for libel'--by whom, and for what, I have no clue.

	25-03-2002 12:19									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And Asher... yes, Star Wars, one of the most entertaining films of the 20th Century.

I have never understood why anyone could possibly like it.

And Phanton Menace especially.
When I saw that, my first thought was "You know what? Toy Story: Phanton Menace would have been a far more entertaining movie."

	25-03-2002 12:21									#28
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quote: His bisexual tendencies were noted in the book, as were his anti-semitic beliefs, among other things that never made it into the film. Funny thing was, no one--critics, publicists, etc.--never made any mention of the differences.

My God! A film not including everything from a book? Stop the Presses!!

I wonder if that means I should be mad at every movie made that was based on a Tom Clancy book (where many main things are omitted) .

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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk His bisexual tendencies were noted in the book, as were his anti-semitic beliefs, among other things that never made it into the film. Funny thing was, no one--critics, publicists, etc.--never made any mention of the differences. Matt Drudge blew the lid off that one last week--or was it two weeks ago? In any case, the 'Beautiful Mind' folks had a beautiful fit, saying that Drudge had gone 'too far' and was trying to sabotage their Oscar chances. There was also talk of 'lawsuits for libel'--by whom, and for what, I have no clue.

And that folks is why Hollywood films are hardly ever great - they air brush out anything they think won't be popular. Its a lowest common denominator form of entertainment.

	25-03-2002 12:22									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui My God! A film not including everything from a book? Stop the Presses!! I wonder if that means I should be mad at every movie made that was based on a Tom Clancy book (where many main things are omitted) .

This isn't some fictional book like Tom Clancy.

It was a biography. The film was an adaptation of the biography and left out some of the most critical parts.

John Nash's 8 page paper on the future of computing from the 60s is more entertaining than A Beautiful Mind was. I bet it'd make for a better movie too.