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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:18
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Originally posted by Osweld
I'm not, really. I don't follow politics very much so I keep out of it. However, you are always *****ing about how bad the rest of Canada is, and joking about how nice it'd be to seperate and all of that, then you get angry at quebec / seperetists for doing the same thing. You're being a hypocrite. |
1) I don't seriously advocate separation
2) I am in the right by saying Quebec has little to no reason to whine. They've got a different culture: SO WHAT? They have quite similar politics. Almost identical. So why leave the current political scheme?
3) I strongly suggest you do actual research before partaking in this discussion 
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And I don't see where you are coming from, anyways. It's the majority the entire population of the country that choses the federal goverment, if Ontario and Quebec have more people then other provinces - so what? Why do you think that the votes from Ontario or Quebec are not as worthy as yours? Why does there even have to be such a distiction between provinces, in the first place? |
Because of things like the NEP. Classic, textbook example. Read up on it.
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And, what do you suggest? make some sort of apartheid government to ensure that Alberta has equal control of the goverment compared to Ontario and Quebec?  |
Or perhaps a useful senate like the US has, two votes per provine, regardless of population.
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So every province other than Quebec and Ontario gets "the shaft"?
Please.
We've already been over this: Quebec and Ontario are underrepresented in Parliament. |
I never said every province other than Quebec and Ontario get the shaft. Historically, Alberta has.
The evidence is all there for you. I know you know about it, but you seem to be chosing to ignore it.
And I really don't care about per capita representation, you've yet to actually prove that. You pulled the figure out of nowhere and didn't provide exact numbers as per my request.
My point is, with the current system in Canada, it's quite possible for the majority government to alienate provinces like Alberta and keep winning a majority government year after year after year.
Another example just came to me:
Years ago, Alberta overwhelmingly voted in a senator to replace one retiring. Now, this doesn't guarantee Chretien to appoint him, but since the province overwhelmingly voted in this one guy to represent us for Alberta, we expected he'd be appointed. But King Jean didn't want that. No, he instead appointed one of his liberal cronies to represent Alberta.
What a crock. 
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Guynemer
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I thought you already had.
After all, here in Michigan we:
Play hockey.
Drink beer. Lots of beer.
Regard those who live to the south of us (****ing Ohioians) as uncouth, uneducated, unstable morons.
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Guynemer
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I thought I remembered there being a Michigan Militia. Not very Canadian of you. Somebody might get hurt. |
They're not around anymore. After all, once Clinton left office, what was the point?
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:18
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Originally posted by Asher
No, Canada paid for it. Federally. Quite, quite different.
Entirely different.
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Given the population split at the time, Quebec and Ontario were the ones who paid for it since there was virtually no revenues coming out of Alberta.
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07-04-2002 08:57
Right, you say that right after you get done complaing about how you think you aren't as important as Ontario or Quebec, and how the goverment is shafting you. 
You see you have to take the system as a whole and not just as parts. 
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