12-06-2002 03:07									#331
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I don't understand it. I don't know the first thing about hex editing (I wish that I did, as I would like to turn off global warming in my Harry Turtledove scenario). My personal theory is that I accidentally played with the wrong rules file. (I had been playing the game in single player and was messing with it. I thought I had copied the old one back, but apparently not.)

At any rate, sas has been trying to get rid of me from the game from the beginning, calling for votes to get me kicked out even because of minor delays in posting my save game file due to my crappy and limited internet access. Real life circumstances will be keeping me away from the game anyway. My computer has died from putting Windows XP on it and I am presently hunting for a new job. I won't have much in the way of internet access for at least a week, which is (to say the least) very inconvenient at a time like this.

Someone else can take Germany if they want, assuming that whatever is wrong can be fixed.

	12-06-2002 03:11									#332
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Is that what you want?

	12-06-2002 04:36									#333
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If that's the case I suggest Soundwave take Germany, and then Germany and AH can work as one cohesive central european civ.

	12-06-2002 11:17									#334
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I kind of saw this resolution comming for a while. I figured, guilty or not, Scott would just drop out of the game sooner or later. As much as I dislike the suggestion, historical circumstances seem to reflect that Darius' idea is good solution. Austria did issue Germany the famous ''blank check'' in 1914. However, German improvements and military forces must be brought back down to realistic levels before the game continues. Hopefully this will done be quickly so we can get on with it.

	12-06-2002 11:24									#335
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But how are we to know what is and isn't supposed to be there?

	12-06-2002 11:39									#336
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Could we look at another History PBEM elsewhere and get some idea? That was what first tipped us off to the irregulariity.

	12-06-2002 11:53									#337
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If Scott wants to quit, ok, that's his choice!!

But I wish we could discover what really happened, because now some people might not trust him any longer (I still would, because we only had "hints" which, however strog they are, are no evidence...)...

And about the "unification" of A-H and Germany (after destruction of the extra improvements and units): sorry, but no, I don't agree!!!

OK, it would be historically coherent, BUT the player would be in a much too strong position!!

Just my opinion, of course...

	12-06-2002 11:58									#338
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Too strong? That was the exact feelings of the U.K., France and Russia in the early XX century. Let's do it and see if the League of Nations can maintain peace in Europe.

	12-06-2002 12:02									#339
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Yes it would make the one person's position strong, but only as strong as an alliance between the two nations would be. It is just naturally confusing having it be one person, but if it helps just consider them allied.

	12-06-2002 12:05									#340
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Agreed

	12-06-2002 12:36									#341
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OK, you've got a point!!!

Let's say I agree, then...

	12-06-2002 13:10									#342
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I played out the French turn for now BTW, so it is now the German turn for whoever will be playing them.

Attachment: france_1907.net
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	12-06-2002 17:41									#343
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Everyone: first, did anyone see the stuff under their avatars yesterday is it only me I should ave taken a screen shot and I will next time it happens...

Also I support Germany and AH being seperate players, but alliances might conflict. And also here is one thing: are we striving to recreate the Triple Entente and Alliance or have it play differently than history? Because yes we could do that, but doesn't that take some of the unexpectedness out of it?

	12-06-2002 19:24									#344
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We don't HAVE to follow history, but events have developed that are leading us in that direction. An alternate solution is that Germany could be declared unfit for self-government and divided among the major powers.

	12-06-2002 19:52									#345
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First to ANZAC: yes, I saw it too, it looked like the stats for a RPG, didn't it?? with H.P., exp., etc.

Weird...

And about the game: I would prefer 2 players for Germany and A-H, I agree for 1, BUT I fully disagree on a partition of Germany!

And about this, it won't be so easy for you to make me change my mind this time...


And about recreating history: I think we don't need to push in that direction: if it occurs, fine, if it doesn't, even better: more surprises...

	12-06-2002 20:19									#346
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I am not crazy: yes!!

Also, things aren't looking completely like history. For example, I am allied with Germany, though I might cancel it now...

	12-06-2002 20:24									#347
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Look at what I found in my profile...any ideas, this i slinked to what I saw before.

Attachment: stats.gif
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	12-06-2002 20:38									#348
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No hasty conclusion: you might still be crazy, but at least you're not the only one...

Yes, it's what I saw yesterday too!! and what I see in my profile!!

Looks like Attack, Defense, Movement and Hit Points...

Which doesn't really relate to the heading "Posts stats"...

BTW, ANZAC, my stats are a bit higher than yours !!!

It would make me prouder if I knew what they mean...

	12-06-2002 23:15									#349
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The one central european civ is not in my mind made to recreate history, it's just that the AH player is the most logical person to take over. I am firmly against a partition because although it would be balanced, it would simply make the game boring to carve Germany up for the sake of completeness. It's ridiculous. I would search to the ends of the earth for a substitute player before I see that happen.

	12-06-2002 23:49									#350
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Fair enough! Not everyone seemed happy with a Triple Alliance-type-thing developing so I suggested an alternative. It was just an idea

	13-06-2002 00:13									#351
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Holy Crap! 90 Hit points Anzac, sheesh! I would advise you try to boost your Magic level as it appears you aree running low. There is a potion shop over there ------>

-FMK.

	13-06-2002 03:54									#352
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at: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=52631 Markos explains the stats:


Level: shows how much you've posted
HP: shows how good your average posts(posts/day) is. if it's over 3, you'll have full HP
MP: shows how long you've been a member and how active you have been
Exp: shows how close you are to geting to a new level

I presume this feature was added because people were complaining that the Star Trek quotes still weren't sufficant to truly reflect the geekiness of people around here

(btw, I'm A: 33 | D: 34 | M: 8 | HP: 29 )

	13-06-2002 04:05									#353
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No i dont wanna have two civs anyway, not historical anyway. Austria will not follow Germany in 'Auchluss'

So in other words we need a new Germany and some answers like Cyrion said!

	13-06-2002 06:20									#354
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Exactly, Soundwave.

Case, after I posted I went to the Apolyton forum and saw that as well. Now I definitely am NOT crazy.

	14-06-2002 03:29									#355
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So whos go after the frenchies!

	14-06-2002 04:52									#356
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quote: Originally posted by The ANZAC Case, after I posted I went to the Apolyton forum and saw that as well. Now I definitely am NOT crazy.

Are you sure that you didn't halucinate that forum?

	14-06-2002 20:32									#357
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quote: So whos go after the frenchies!

Germany, but we don't have one.

Ok, today I'm going around trying to find subs for all my games as I will also be gone for three weeks, from Thursday, June 20 to Thursday, July 11 to be precise. I am going to put up threads here and at Apolyton to hunt for subs, but before I do so I'm going to all of the games in which my civs have allies and asking whether my allied player would be willing to do my turns while I'm gone.

I don't have any allies in this game, but since there is a stable peace I thought there wouldn't be any conflicts of interest if another player here did the Turkish turns. Would anyone here be willing to throw in the Turkish turns while I'm gone, or should I find a sub for this one? Reply soon as I need to put up those sub-hunt threads soon.

	15-06-2002 08:55									#358
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Thats ok, just get someone and then find a Germany

	18-06-2002 06:52									#359
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Come on we need a Germany, if no one does it, ill take it!

	18-06-2002 18:33									#360
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Why don't we post a thread in the forum searching for Germany? That's what I'll do.