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Gramphos is offline Gramphos
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Yes, I put in the wrong SAVExpnd.exe.

Here is the correct version (17kB), I'll update the zip as well.

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If you have added LUXURY resources the game will crash. so far it's only possible to add strategic and bonus resources. Luxury resources only work with the eight positions on which the original game luxuries have been placed. If you want to change luxuries that's possible, but only if you replace one of the eight, on the position they are now (rename them).

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@Gramphos:

Thanks! It works correctly now.

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If you have added LUXURY resources the game will crash. so far it's only possible to add strategic and bonus resources. Luxury resources only work with the eight positions on which the original game luxuries have been placed. If you want to change luxuries that's possible, but only if you replace one of the eight, on the position they are now (rename them).


Thanks! I did add luxuries! I'll change it and see how it goes....
Thanks Again!

Gelvan is offline Gelvan
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took me 3 days and this forum to find this out :-)

and another thing is, that you can only have 36 different pictures.
there are people here and at civfanatics who claim to use more than 36 pics, but so far, no one has posted a description on how this would be possible. I tried it, and every picture 37+ hasn't shown up in the game itself, even if they were visible in the editor. seems to be a problem with the civ3.exe.

But you can (not with luxuries) add more than 36 resources if you don't care to have the same pic with different resources. KittenofChaos has introduced this with his fertilized wheat and feudalism cattles. Available with a later advance. Works quite well in the game.

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My mod uses 36 pics. Although I hadn't seen it anywhere, I figured more than that would not work because the .PCX file only had 36 slots. I just figured that was the max. Which I guess it is. Haven't thought of reusing pics, don't think I will as that can get confusing. I noticed a MAJOR lag in map generation with 36 resources - Huge maps take about 15 minutes! Of course I have a PII 266 with 224MB RAM....

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Gramphos,
Please upload, may be separately, c3mt.txt with _override keys in English. I want translate them in Russian.

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Please upload, may be separately, c3mt.txt with _override keys in English. I want translate them in Russian.

I've made some modification to it since the last version. So it is a little extended now. There are still many changes being made, and many things to make before next version, but as soon as I have most strings ready I'll send it out to the translators, and will also post a screenshot on what I'm working on right now... Email me so I get your address, and I can send you the file then.

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I found a backup of the 0.92.5 file. So you can start by translating it. Then when I send you the other, use a file comparation program to see what changes I've made.

Attachment: c3mt.txt
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Gramphos is offline Gramphos
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After today, it stands totally clear that the next version can't be ready before the end of next weekend, and for it to be really good and 'almost' bugfree I'll need the week after that as well.

So with this said: If you find any bugs in the current version just make sure they are posted before the newxt weekend when I'll probably begin with bugfixes.


If any major bugs are found I might release other subversions with the new toolmember in work disabled, and totally hidded. (As the Civilopediaeditor was during some fixes the version before it got added.) (Yes, I'm working on a new membertool. As soon as I have the major lineup for it I'll post a screenshot for suggestions (probably next weekend)) Once that is posted I'll begin with the hard work, to get the tool to work under the hod. (Well, what's done to it now is working, but there are still some things left to add, and I alos hope to be able to improve the Civilopedia Editor some for the next version, but no promisses. (I'll try to add the fields from pediaicons.txt to it, and allow save of entries into separate files)) But as usual, all is a matter of time, and I don't know if everything will make it into the next version. I also plan some improvents on the BIC-import/export to give an option to import rules into a save (as I see this feature is wanted very mush, and isn't hard to implement (but I had decided not to do for the same issues as when you made some changes to civ3mod.bic, that the save wouldn't handle that. It also requires a new way for the tool to separate SAVrules from Civ3Mod rules. (Currently it mixes them to one ruleset on a load of a save, but to be able to save them back it muust keep them separeately. (That latest thing is the biggest obstacle right now (affects the entire SGE) for import of rules.))))

Gramphos is offline Gramphos
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Note that if you have problems with lock ups check that the SAVExpnd.exe is in the directory of C3MT, if not, get it from an earlier post.

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Gramphos, I'd just like to say that you're great. 'Poly really does owe you for all of your hardwork.

A suggestion for organizing this Files forum. You should consider doing what Civ Fanatics have done, seperate files into different categories. Possibly, make a section for all the utilities, a section for maps, a section for mods, a section for scenarios, a section for unit graphics, and also section for the rest of the graphic files. Of course these are only preliminary suggestions for the sections, but doing some thing similar with the files would really be welcomed. It's pretty difficult to find a certain file, such as unit graphic files with the current format. Unless I'm missing some thing, you should consider what I'm saying.



BtW, what I first had to say had no corralation with the former of what I said

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When I try to view a map, it gives me the error "Runtime Error 401: Can't show non-modal form when modal form is displayed."

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Gramphos!

Great work with your MultiTool:
If you need someone to translate it in Italian....... Here I am

Saluti

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When I try to view a map, it gives me the error "Runtime Error 401: Can't show non-modal form when modal form is displayed."


That must be an error since the name change... (Addition of main menu) Sounds as none is using the feature. It will be fixed.

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Gramphos, I'd just like to say that you're great. 'Poly really does owe you for all of your hardwork.

A suggestion for organizing this Files forum. You should consider doing what Civ Fanatics have done, seperate files into different categories. Possibly, make a section for all the utilities, a section for maps, a section for mods, a section for scenarios, a section for unit graphics, and also section for the rest of the graphic files. Of course these are only preliminary suggestions for the sections, but doing some thing similar with the files would really be welcomed. It's pretty difficult to find a certain file, such as unit graphic files with the current format. Unless I'm missing some thing, you should consider what I'm saying.



BtW, what I first had to say had no corralation with the former of what I said

I have no power on the way the forums are set up. It's up to the admins. However I've a topped file index in this forum with the categories separated

Gramphos is offline Gramphos
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Gramphos!

Great work with your MultiTool:
If you need someone to translate it in Italian....... Here I am

Saluti

If you want to translate it you could either start by doenloading the full english c3mt.txt a few posts up, or wait until I get alpha/betas of the new toolmember (so that all those strings are ready)

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I have no power on the way the forums are set up. It's up to the admins.


I figured that you might have some pull, so I gave it a try.

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However I've a topped file index in this forum with the categories separated


Yeah, I know, and that's part of the reason as to why I'm referring to you as great.

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That must be an error since the name change... (Addition of main menu) Sounds as none is using the feature. It will be fixed.

Okay, cool thanks.

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Okay, cool thanks.

You were in the SGE, right. I can't seem to find an error. Did you start the SGE from within the CopyTool?

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You were in the SGE, right. I can't seem to find an error. Did you start the SGE from within the CopyTool?

Yes, that's correct. I'll post a screenshot of what happened.

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Yes, that's correct. I'll post a screenshot of what happened.

Until next version, start it directly or from the main menu, then there is no bug. It will be fixed, as well as the problem with the windows not alwas being listed in the taskbar, oh, did I sid that I just made the map window resizeable (It stretches the map (See attached image))

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Thanks, I'll see if it works in a bit.

Is there any way to modify borders? I changed the culture, possession, and everything else I could find for a French city to English control, but the border remained for France. Any way to solve this?

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Thanks, I'll see if it works in a bit.

Is there any way to modify borders? I changed the culture, possession, and everything else I could find for a French city to English control, but the border remained for France. Any way to solve this?

Doesn't it update the next turn?

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Okay, I don't get that error anymore, and a new screen popped up, but I got another error.

The new little window for the minimap appeared, but it was grey when the error came up...

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Strange. Yuo did load terrain graphics and a save right?

I've changed to mush of the map to be able top know if that was or is a bug.

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Yep. I loaded everything correctly. Everything else seems to work fine, but I always get an error with that.

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Yep. I loaded everything correctly. Everything else seems to work fine, but I always get an error with that.

Well, it's probably fixed.

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Great, can't wait for the next version.

This might be a dumb question, but is there any way to change the names of cities for the AI cities? I might be using this to make a scenario soon, but I want to make sure I can do everything before I start.

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Not in the current version at least. Might add it to the next if I get time.

 
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