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Goingonit
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Toronto, Canada - AECCP member
Apr 2001
time: 00:19
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
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If he did not use contraception, or used sh*tty contraception, he gets to pay |
Well if they did not use contraception, the woman can either have the child or not... she has a choice after the pregancy is revealed.
The man has NO choice after the revelation of the pregnancy. If he wants the child, but she doesn't, the child is aborted. If he doesn't want the child, but she does, then he is responsible for child support. He is at the mercy of the woman after the act of sex, because she has the only say after the sexual act. |
His lack of choice is due to his relative lack of responsibility. There are so many ways that his actions can result in a kid, yet who gets stuck with having a kid and having to support a kid at a ridiculously young age?
And the woman's choice can sometimes be restricted by moral obligations.
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KrazyHorse
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Macedonia
May 2001
time: 00:19
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Originally posted by Tuberski
Being a person who pays child support, I think you are all wrong. It's not a double standard. If you can't do the time, don't do the time.
And as far as, "I don't want anything to do with the child, so why should I pay?"
Because, you jag off, you stiil helped bring life into the world, you can at the very least, make sure that life flourishes. |
You didn't agree to have a child, and took reasonable precautions against it. If the unexpected occurs and the girl gets pregnant then there's still a remedy. Not taking that opion is the woman's choice, but it becomes her responsibility once she does that.
Somebody slips and falls in your store, and hits her head. You run a generally safe store, but accidents do happen. Luckily, you have some medical training so you strenuously advise the person to lie down until the doctor can get there. The person shakes you off, tells you she needs to be somewhere else. You warn her again, she starts telling you that you have no right to stop her from leaving. She walks out of the store, faints, and gets hit by a truck. She now sues you not only for the damage caused directly by the fall (minor concussion) but also the injuries caused by getting hit by the truck (chronic back problems, multiple fractures, lost income for years and years). Okay?
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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:19
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His lack of choice is due to his relative lack of responsibility. There are so many ways that his actions can result in a kid, yet who gets stuck with having a kid and having to support a kid at a ridiculously young age? |
The woman also had a lack of responsibilty, but she can get out of it.
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Pregnancy is a consequence of sex. If you don't know that, then you shouldn't be having it. |
Death is a consequence of drinking. If you don't know that, then you shouldn't be drinking.
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If you are ever in that situation, be a man, and pay the support. At the very least you will feel better about yourself. |
Oh, I will... believe me. If it ever happens to be, I'll be making my payments on time, every month, until the end of my life. But I'm not talking about what I would do under the situation.
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More like pregnancy is the primary reason for sex, not consequence. |
Not these days  . The primary reason for sex is pleasure.
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26-04-2002 07:16
I think you seriously need to get a woman's perspective on this. There is no way a woman is going to get pregnant just so she can get child support. 
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