05-05-2002 20:19									#31
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LOL! No Solver... You're right. There is no other life beyond Apolyton and CTP. What was I thinking?

	05-05-2002 20:21									#32
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Assimilation completed .

BTW Quinns, no need to click the Post Reply button anymore... scroll a bit more to the bottom, and write your reply there, where it says Post Quick Reply.

	05-05-2002 20:32									#33
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Okay Solver, thanks for the tip.
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C-Matrix v. Quinns CTP PBEM Challenge started 05-MAY-2002.
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	08-05-2002 16:42									#34
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TheBirdMan v. Quinns CTP PBEM Challenge started 08-MAY-2002.
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	08-05-2002 18:32									#35
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TheBirdMan v C-MATRIX Challenge officially started today 08.05.2002.
Good Luck to all Challenge Players.

	08-05-2002 19:43									#36
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I would like to share some thoughts about the rules for the new Challenge System.
I assume that all Civilizations at Apolyton have already discovered “The Age of Reason”, so any comments could only improved the way we play together.
We obviously need more opinions to make the things smooth and fun for all the players.

First we shell need a moderator for every game, what is normal and shouldn’t be a problem at Apolyton.
Perhaps sending every 5 Th turn to the moderator will be sufficient to control the game run.

I am not sure that we need 10 turns to decide do we really want to play particular game. I think if we don’t have standard map then the challenged person should have the right to decide what the settings of the game will be and play first, but then the moderator should be the man to start the game and send turn “0”, so that way we can eliminate eventual cheating in the “Luck factor” of the map.

Some particular settings for maps should be considered inappropriate in general and avoid as a wish from the challenged player. (it’s up to the people at Apolyton to decide that).

The Challenged person should have some time (as 1week) to accept or reject the challenge but if without good reason and for more then 1 month, he will loose the game and the Challenger wins automatically. (It will be the same procedure to apply for people who live Apolyton for long time, or are pretty much dead, what happens in the real live)>>If some body have lost his sword, or has it stolen that should be only his own problem.

There should be some restriction for the Challengers also, for example they shouldn’t be allowed to challenge one person for a period of (3 months??) from the last game they had a game with the same player.
Every player at Apolyton should be classified as a player from Internet, PBEM or Both leagues. So every Challenger could challenge only a player from his own class.

We need a register for those games too, and a good Ranking System.
I personally think the ranking system should be different from the existing PBEM Multiplayer system.
There are so many systems for different sports around the world, that we don’t have to “discover the wheel”, but only to adapt some suitable for CTP.

I believe there are many other people who will share their opinions about those issues, so feel free to comment anything.

	08-05-2002 20:16									#37
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I personally think that we need a thread for "CTP Cheats"
It's a shame but I am still not familiar with those related to PBEM.

It will be very useful for many people who are still new to the community.
We can have all common cheats explained clearly there.

Solver, do you think that it's a good idea?

	09-05-2002 00:51									#38
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I remember, we had a long thread last year about cheats and such things, that might be cheats or use of functions, not inteded from the beginning.

I suppose it could be found somewhere in the CTP-Multiplaying archive.

	27-06-2002 01:48									#39
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We could use this thread as our PBEM tourney thread. There are some suggested settings in the earlier posts...

	27-06-2002 22:22									#40
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CTP PBEM BerXpert vs. Quinns started 27-JUN-2002 using above standard settings.

Map size: Huge
Difficulty: Emperor
Barbs: Raging Hordes
Earth World
Bloodlust Off
Pollution On
Number of Civilizations 4
(2 Human Players, 2 Computer Players)
Map:
Wet/dry 50%
warm/cold 50%
Ocean/land 50%
Island/continent 50%
Uniform/diverse 50%
few/many goods 50%
One Settler (default)
100 Gold (default)

	28-06-2002 00:12									#41
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Fellas i must say, you all do a great job in getting people interested!lol..i would love to play in a pbem game..if anyone is up for it, please post. Keep in mind now, this will be my 1st pbem game, so if you guys have any tips, hints or useful info please post also. Thanx guys. its threads like this that keeps this forum buzzing.

	28-06-2002 06:37									#42
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Malcolm Ex -- A good way to start is with Keygen's Recruitment Center. That is a good way to meet players. State your best defeat against the computer in solo competition (Chieftain, Warlord, Prince, King, Emperor, Deity). That is a good way for people to get a rough idea of the level of your play, and can then match up better with them. Good luck!

	28-06-2002 07:49									#43
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thanks alot quinns, youre a life saver...everyone on here is so cool and they accept people they don't even know. I really want to get involved with the best forum there is. If i can help in any way, shape, or form..let me know, thanx again.

	29-06-2002 01:04									#44
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Great to hear, Malcolm!

	28-07-2002 20:21									#45
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CTP PBEM Challenge Update:

TheBirdMan vs. quinns -- In progress -- Turn 104 -- quinns in the power graph lead by about triple Birdman's power graph.

berXpert vs. quinns -- In progress -- Turn 44 -- power graph virtually even for both players.

	29-07-2002 09:37									#46
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Preparing 2nd match Quinns/TBM. Suggest same nations as we uses now with same settings as the one BerXpert/Quinns uses (Quinns mail from 27th june).

If ok from Quinn, the game will start either this afternoon or tomorrow morning (danish time).

Anyone else, ready for a challenge?

BTW - I can inform you all, that the playersettings Jpww suggested in the game Great Alliances IS WORKING VERY-VERY FINE. We are now at turn 26 in a 4 player game/8 nations/0 (zero) AIs.

	29-07-2002 20:58									#47
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Yes, BirdMan. Above mentioned settings are fine. Start it up whenever you can!

I have challenged Lung in the PBEM Rankings thread, I will do it here also.

I challenge Lung the Great!

	29-07-2002 22:28									#48
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Lung CAN be beaten.

I hope.

	29-07-2002 22:59									#49
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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan Lung CAN be beaten. I hope.

I hope so too!

I have an idea to remove a bit of the luck factor in CTP PBEM Challenges. How about we make "ruins" off limits to all players? Note that this would mean that no human player could ever enter ruins. But the player could still work the tile with a worker if desired. I understand, from many prior posts, that many feel that they lost only because of bad luck with ruins. This would eliminate this. What do you think?

	29-07-2002 23:10									#50
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That would be great!

	29-07-2002 23:44									#51
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Hey Kralj! Thanks for the input. How about a PBEM Challenge match? You would be welcomed into our small club if you like. Right now it is: TheBirdMan, berXpert, and quinns. I have challenged several others, but they have not answered. How about a game with me? I have a slot open : . I'm not sure if Birdman or BerXpert is looking for another challenge match, but I think Birdman is.

We are using the settings above, with the possible addition of making the "ruins" off limits, if Birdman and berXpert agree for future games.

	30-07-2002 00:02									#52
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No ruins?

Ohh. I AM temptated (right word???). But on the other hand. How should I else get the knowledge to build SOTL? And........ (you shall soon know Quinns ).

Ok - I'm open for your suggestion Steve. As we both know, both goodies and evil comes out of those "stones". So I vote with the majority.

	30-07-2002 00:26									#53
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Steve, I'll gladly start challenge mach. Unfortunately I'll shortly go to vacations, so if you can wait till last week of August that would be great.

	30-07-2002 00:39									#54
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Sure Kralj! End of August is fine. My wife is due to give birth to a baby girl in September, so my turns will be few and far between then, but I promise to play at least one turn every two or three days.

Have a great vacation! (You Europeans, I swear, six weeks of vacation a year! My God!!!! )

	30-07-2002 00:43									#55
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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan No ruins? Ohh. I AM temptated (right word???).

Tempted

quote: But on the other hand. How should I else get the knowledge to build SOTL? And........ (you shall soon know Quinns ).

Uh oh.

quote: Ok - I'm open for your suggestion Steve. As we both know, both goodies and evil comes out of those "stones". So I vote with the majority.

Okay, we will see what berXpert says. But it looks like this rule will pass.

	30-07-2002 00:45									#56
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Hey Birdman, I take your challenge if you are still free for an extra game.

If that's the case, please set the game as you want and send me turn 0.

	30-07-2002 00:48									#57
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quote: Originally posted by quinns (You Europeans, I swear, six weeks of vacation a year! My God!!!! )

Not six weeks, only 30 working days.

	30-07-2002 02:38									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Kralj Matjaz Not six weeks, only 30 working days.

Umff... Where is the "envy" smiley?

... that's not it!

	30-07-2002 09:41									#59
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Turn 0 of challenge 3 (TBM and Quinns) and challenge 4 (TBM and BerXpert) sent.

To Steve/BerXpert: I have been fubling with the e-mailadresses. Wrote "challenge 3"/challenge 4 there. Should have added the nations like "Spain Challenge 3" or "Mexicans Challenge 4". If you think what I have done will become too confusing, I'll make a restart this afternoon (danish time).

	30-07-2002 19:20									#60
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Max... my email addresss is quinn2084@yahoo.com. Make the leader name quinns_3 or TheBirdMan_3 or berXpert_4 (apolyton handle_challenge game number) how is that? That will be clearer.