30-07-2002 19:53									#61
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I know what your email addresses are - I just wanted to avoid to write it in the game (see YRC comments on page 2 from JB and Keygen).

Should I make a restart now with some more "saying" names?

	30-07-2002 21:43									#62
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Yes Max. Mainly because the file name that I received from you and the file name I sent to you were exactly the same (CTP_PBEM_CHALLENGE_3) which leads to confusion. Other than that, I don't care about the names. Do whatever you like there.

	30-07-2002 22:42									#63
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quote: Originally posted by quinns My wife is due to give birth to a baby girl in September...

Congratulations!

	30-07-2002 22:46									#64
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Thanks JPWW!! Much appreciated!

	01-08-2002 11:59									#65
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quote: My wife is due to give birth to a baby girl in September...

Congratulations Steve!

This old chap still uses sharp shoots in his gun.... I'm only doing it for fun now

	01-08-2002 19:12									#66
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Thanks Birdman! Sharpshooter! Right!

	02-08-2002 07:42									#67
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Map size: Huge
Difficulty: Emperor
** Ruins: OFF LIMITS (No entry allowed.)
Earth World
Bloodlust Off
Pollution On
Number of Civilizations 4
(2 Human Players, 2 Computer Players)
Map:
Wet/dry 50%
warm/cold 50%
Ocean/land 50%
Island/continent 50%
Uniform/diverse 50%
few/many goods 50%
One Settler (default)
100 Gold (default)

	02-08-2002 07:46									#68
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Lung has accepted my challenge. Check out the above standard one vs. one settings Lung. If you agree with the standards, (I hope you do, were trying to get the one vs. one players to use the same settings), then I'll start. If not, let me know which ones to change. Thanks for accepting the challenge.

	02-08-2002 11:58									#69
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Lung have WHAT?!??!?!?!?!?!!


Now your little nasty-ugly kangoroo-dirtbag. COME ON - I CHALLENGE YOU TOO.

	02-08-2002 12:02									#70
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Me too what do you say we have the top 6 in a battle

Birdy,Quinns,ber,Kralj,Lung,blackice?

Any takers? maybe we could play J.'s tourney map or quinn's map and tourney rules? Skill only? No ruins nothing a map even goods and top dog?

	02-08-2002 12:19									#71
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I have games running with Quinns and BerXpert.

You are welcome Blackice .

	02-08-2002 12:33									#72
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? Does that mean you except or decline the challenge?

	02-08-2002 12:36									#73
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Accept.

	02-08-2002 12:48									#74
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I hope we get the rest to decide this could be a whole whack of fun

	02-08-2002 18:57									#75
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I accept it too

	02-08-2002 19:01									#76
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Me too what do you say we have the top 6 in a battle Birdy,Quinns,ber,Kralj,Lung,blackice? Any takers? maybe we could play J.'s tourney map or quinn's map and tourney rules? Skill only? No ruins nothing a map even goods and top dog?

I'm in.

Blackice -- Are you and Birdman starting a one vs. one challenge match also? Good. The one vs. one PBEM games move very fast. Birdman and I are on turn 112, and we started in May 2002!

	02-08-2002 21:58									#77
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No I just thought it would be a whole wack of fun if the top dogs had a shot out. Tourney rules no ruins and a nice big map that was the same for all.

So we just have Lung and Kralj to go. I know Kralj is going on holidays soon. That could give us some time to get a map together.

	02-08-2002 22:20									#78
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Regarding a map. We could drag out that old map that was called sym4wayc.csg. (Blackice, Gavrushka and I played a good game on that one -- Gavrushka won -- Damn lucky bloke! ) That was symmetrical for 4 players, but it was set up so that 8 players could have exactly the same terrain and goods. I would only have to remove the central land bridges to make it completely symmetrical for 8 players, (or connect the other land masses on the left and right edges via additional landbridges.)

	02-08-2002 22:46									#79
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Sounds good that was a fine job you did on that map

Gav yes he turned into an extremely good player, my guess is he had a great chance at taking that tourney. So did you Quinn

	03-08-2002 00:09									#80
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I don't like those sym-maps.

They simply takes the "living" and surprises out of a game.

	03-08-2002 03:27									#81
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Well you know we agree there 100% random map is good.

	03-08-2002 04:32									#82
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Okay. I like random maps too... but let's make all ruins off limits... and the wonders illegal -- to lessen the luck factor. Everything else goes. How is that?

	03-08-2002 05:21									#83
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Just exclude them in the map creation.

	03-08-2002 07:32									#84
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Just exclude them in the map creation.

How do you exclude ruins without revealing the map? Oh, you mean get a moderator to do it?

	03-08-2002 10:20									#85
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Just modify the mod and or create a scenario and alter the file.

	03-08-2002 11:33									#86
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AAAARRRGGGGG..... Hulk-hulk.

How studid can I be. I just realized, that I do not need to be afraid of building cities "in-the-middle-of-nowhere" in my first Quinns-challenge (ruins allowed in that game).

I HAVE CONFUSIOUS ACADEMY. I have no need pulling those "wandering normads" closer to my homeland.

	03-08-2002 18:46									#87
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quinns,

Modify the following constant to have a value of zero in the Const.txt file before creating the map:

After:

RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX 0

This file is generally found in the Civilization-Call to Power/ctp_data/default/gamedata folder. It can also be modified and saved in the default/gamedata of a particular scenario so I've heard

Birdman,

Did you find Confucius Academy in a ruin?

	03-08-2002 19:07									#88
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Okay JPWW! I don't know jack about mods as you can tell! That was a simple solution... I like those simple solutions.

Birdman, Confucius Academy? The Spanish have begun great educational ventures with the Chinese!! Damn... I'm in trouble.

	03-08-2002 19:19									#89
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Sounds good that was a fine job you did on that map Gav yes he turned into an extremely good player, my guess is he had a great chance at taking that tourney. So did you Quinn

Why, THANKS ICE! But there is some pretty stiff competition there in that "tourney" -- I would have been hard pressed. And one needs VERY much free time to commit to playing in that tournament. I will stick to PBEM. I wish some of those top internet players would come over to PBEM. They would be good competition here. It kind of baffles me -- the reluctance most all of the great internet players have to play PBEM? It just takes a few minutes a day to play PBEM, but hours upon end to play an internet game which usually ends without result. Oh well, to each their own!

	03-08-2002 22:06									#90
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True but not many of them have good military skills.

I think what they do not like is the fact cheating is easy to do. I believe all those years in GL have left a permanant distrust of others for them?