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URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) - Pipe bombs accompanied by anti-government propaganda exploded Friday in five mailboxes in rural parts of Illinois and Iowa, an attack authorities called domestic terrorism. Five people were injured, none seriously.

A note found with the bombs said more "attention getters" were on the way. It was signed "someone who cares."

Authorities did not immediately announce any suspects. The Postal Service suspended delivery service through Saturday in the agricultural region that straddles the Mississippi River, and urged residents not to remove any devices they might find in their mailboxes.

"We are reviewing this as a domestic terrorism incident," said James Bogner, an FBI (news - web sites) spokesman. "We don't know if all the devices have been found or there are devices remaining ... We probably won't know for a while."

In all, eight devices were found and five exploded. The bombs were not sent by mail but were instead placed in the mailboxes and set to detonate when the boxes were opened, investigators said.

Postal Service Inspector Linda Jensen said consistencies in placement suggested the bombs were linked, but that did not mean just one person was involved.

Bombs were found in Morrison, Mount Carroll and Elizabeth in Illinois, and in Asbury, Farley, Tipton, Anamosa and a farm outside Davenport in Iowa. The communities all can be reached within a day's drive.

Three letter carriers and two customers were injured in the bombings. None of the injuries was considered life threatening, but Carroll County, Ill., Sheriff Rod Herrick warned residents against opening their mailboxes.

"I don't want kids getting off the bus and opening the mailbox, or people coming home from work and opening their mailbox," he said. "Don't touch your mailbox until further notice."

Marjorie Zuidema said she and her husband, Robert, heard something that sounded "like a bird hitting a window, but a lot louder," when her mailbox in rural Morrison, Ill., exploded Friday afternoon.

By the time she discovered what had happened, "the police and FBI, postal inspectors, just about everybody" was at the end of her driveway.

She said she feels fortunate that she did not have to go to the mailbox.

"It makes you wonder," she said. "You just don't think of things happening to you in a little town."

Postal Service vice president Azeezaly Jaffer said the bombs were accompanied by a typewritten note that began: "Mailboxes are exploding! Why, you ask?"

Then it said, in part:

"If the government controls what you want to do they control what you can do. ... I'm obtaining your attention in the only way I can. More info is on its way. More 'attention getters' are on the way."

The letter also said: "If I could, I would change only one person, unfortunately the resources are not accessible. It seems killing a single famous person would get the same media attention as killing numerous un-famous humans."

The bombs appeared to be triggered by being touched or moved. Jensen described the devices as three-quarter inch steel pipes with a 9-volt battery attached. Accompanying the bomb was a clear plastic bag containing the note.

Postal Service spokeswoman Joleen Baxa said mail delivery was suspended through Saturday in all areas east of Cedar Rapids and in northern Illinois.

One of the explosions happened just north of Dubuque. Witnesses said the bomb went off when a letter carrier opened a mailbox from the passenger side of a vehicle, leaving a small hole in the door and injuring the carrier's arm.

Donna Millwright, a letter carrier in Dubuque County for 22 years, stopped her deliveries when she heard news of the explosion.

"I don't want to get blown up," she said. "I've seen plenty of things in mailboxes, but never a bomb



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****ing people that is responsible for this should be thrown under the jail when they are caught.

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The Militia nuts strike again. Didn't think McVeigh was the only one, didja?

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I get tired of people who say, "But you wouldn't think that this could happen in OUR area."

I live in eastern Iowa, and I saw the news flash to warn people about this kind of threat now. This can happen anywhere.

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who are they?

paramilitary teams (like the ones I've seen in movies hiding in the mountains and such?)

Should be easy to track them down?

Lucky there were not any victims.

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They're paranoid whites who have difficulty confronting their own failures in life, so they latch on to some hapless scapegoat, in this case the government. Many of them are drunks, or are unable to hold steady jobs because of personality problems.

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And why are these men allowed to carry weapons?
(one may ask?)

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Notice that all references in the letter the perp left are "First Person Singular". My bet is that it is some "Local Missguided Youth".

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who are they?

paramilitary teams (like the ones I've seen in movies hiding in the mountains and such?)

Should be easy to track them down?

Lucky there were not any victims.


With Illinois and Iowa combined, there were two victims that were injured, according to CNN reporters.

Not sure if this increased or not from this morning though.

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By victims I mean dead.

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Holy sh*t, thanks for posting this, I have relatives in Farley!

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By victims I mean dead.




Your definition seems unfair to me then.

Those who have their bodies mutilated from wounds and survive, do not count as victims??

Those who experienced the psychological trauma from an explosion do not count as victims??

I got news for you --- anyone who has suffered in anyway, from a bomb or other terrorist attack are victims.

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in Greek Thymata (victims) = dead

Traymaties (wounded) = wounded



Victim is dead. Dead is one thing noone can do anything about

All others can be coped with.

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in general when talkiong about explotions etc we use the word victims to describe only the dead.

when in roberries and we can say this man has fallen victim of robbery.

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in any case minor thingy, the definitions in front of the acts

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I think you're making a moutain out of a molehill. I doubt this is so much the work of a white supremacy group as it is the work of bored teens or young adults. Does no one remember tales of kids putting M-80s and cherry bombs in mailboxes?


I still think they need to go to juvie or jail, but let's not get worked up into a frenzy. Heck, even in the rural MidWest, there are better ways to be a terrorist.

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paiktis22, fine -- stick with that more unfair definition. Try to talk with a widow or widower of a New York resident who died in the 9/11 attack.

Try to tell that widow or widower that he or she was not a victim of a terrorist attack, in spite of their suffering.


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Holy sh*t, thanks for posting this, I have relatives in Farley!


Farley?? As in the small rural town in eastern Iowa in Dubuque county??

I am from a small town called Holy Cross, which is 30 miles west of the city of Dubuque.

Is this what you mean by Farley??

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paiktis22, fine -- stick with that more unfair definition. Try to talk with a widow or widower of a New York resident who died in the 9/11 attack.

Try to tell that widow or widower that he or she was not a victim of a terrorist attack, in spite of their suffering.



MrFun, you are being irritably PC and self righteous I have to say.
Making big issues of things that are not.
All are victims yadda yadda yadda.
Yes of course I agree.
Never said anything different.
There happy?

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MrFun, you are being irritably PC and self righteous I have to say.
Making big issues of things that are not.
All are victims yadda yadda yadda.
Yes of course I agree.
Never said anything different.
There happy?


Ok, consider me to be satisfied now.

Ok, maybe I was being too philosophical about the concept of victim?

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Maybe the end of semester alcohol prompted David to live out his libertarian fantasies...

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They're paranoid whites who have difficulty confronting their own failures in life, so they latch on to some hapless scapegoat, in this case the government. Many of them are drunks, or are unable to hold steady jobs because of personality problems.


Hey that's BS! I'm a paranoid white who latches onto scapegoats to explain my drinking and employment failures and I'm not bombing mailboxes. Guess again. gotta be a different reason.

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He's gonna find out exactly what anarchy feels like when he's being cornholed in jail...

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I think you're making a moutain out of a molehill. I doubt this is so much the work of a white supremacy group as it is the work of bored teens or young adults. Does no one remember tales of kids putting M-80s and cherry bombs in mailboxes?


I still think they need to go to juvie or jail, but let's not get worked up into a frenzy. Heck, even in the rural MidWest, there are better ways to be a terrorist.



I'm not turning this into 9-11 the sequel. But that is the kind of crap that can get people killed. You know children do open mailboxes from time to time.

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I'm not saying it isn't serious, but I'm not so sure it's news worthy. Murder is serious, but were we to discuss ever one, we'd be overwhelmed in no time. This seems to be more a case of news sensationalism than something we need to take very seriously outside the region.

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He's gonna find out exactly what anarchy feels like when he's being cornholed in jail...


There is an interesting heinlien novella, Coventry, about a libertarian guy who goes off to live in a compound for people who can't handle modern society. He learns that things aren't so rosy in the anarchist's world, either...

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BTW, it's a good thing you changed that avatar. I told some old SF fans about this board. They thought you must be a girl with that kitty avatar.

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There is an interesting heinlien novella, Coventry, about a libertarian guy who goes off to live in a compound for people who can't handle modern society. He learns that things aren't so rosy in the anarchist's world, either...


Read it. Not a big fan of Heinlein, though. Just harps on and on about same ideology...

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That's fine by me. I'm changing back as soon as Eli takes down his anti-UN avatar, which MarkL (whatever his name is now) was gracious enough to do with his burning Israeli flag avatar.

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Oh, and on same theme as "Coventry", there was a story written by Niven(?) called "Cloak of Anarchy", IIRC.

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I'm not saying it isn't serious, but I'm not so sure it's news worthy. Murder is serious, but were we to discuss ever one, we'd be overwhelmed in no time. This seems to be more a case of news sensationalism than something we need to take very seriously outside the region.


Well to be fair, everything in America is newsworthy Case in point is the panty inspection at the local prom in California. If that gets on the news, you know bombs in mailboxes will

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You gots a point there.

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Just in case things outside of America are important too ( ), there are reports that a ferry carrying 400 passengers has gone down along with most aboard in Bangladesh.

 
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