16-05-2002 00:47									#121
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yes, you can... if I decide to move to Canada, I will still be a European, not a Canadian.

As for those in Cyprus - sure... and those in Anatolia are technically Europeans too, for their country has been concentrating more on Europe than on Asia or the Middle East for 80 years

	16-05-2002 00:48									#122
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Double post.


Edit:
This thread used to say.

Then, they want to bann me because of the gay smilie.
What is considered to be a troll in this forum?

regarding the comment made by Paiktis.
I thought I posted this twice, but I didnt.
This is why I rewrite this here.

	16-05-2002 00:49									#123
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that's not the question, kublai... the question is, when are you allowed to and when not?

	16-05-2002 00:49									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I contest that Canada is more American than Britain is American.

You can both be our "best friend"!

	16-05-2002 00:49									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Chris, care to elaborate who "and friends" would be?

My ethnic companions are the worst of the lot, followed closly by a few Scandanavians who seem to think their sh1t doesn't stink.
Quite a few of you have heads the size of watermellons.
But I like you also Andy, if that helps you any.

quote: BTW, that makes the impression you don't like Mark's trolls, though you have just admitted to liking Stewart. Contradiction. But then, it might be a bit more than platonic in that case

Never attempt to be a debater, you lack the mind for it.
I often talk to Mark in Star Trek threads, and find him interesting, ergo your conclusions are falty.

	16-05-2002 00:50									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat You know, I think the fact that it really doesn't makes us immensely different to America.

I will not claim to speak for you, IW, but the nastiness displayed by some posters toward the US is clearly derived, at least in part, from jealousy. It DOES piss them off. Many threads end up in a "The EU will soon be bigger/better/stonger/richer/etc. than the US!" versus "No it won't! USA rules!" cluster****.

For those who aren't so caught up in international pissing contests, I say bravo.

-Arrian

	16-05-2002 00:52									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion yes, you can... if I decide to move to Canada, I will still be a European, not a Canadian. As for those in Cyprus - sure... and those in Anatolia are technically Europeans too, for their country has been concentrating more on Europe than on Asia or the Middle East for 80 years

Ok. thats cool


Regarding Turkey. One really can't blame for wanting to be in the EU. If you look at their neighbors, they don't have much of a future otherwise.

	16-05-2002 00:52									#128
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quote: Now. What is an European?

Technically, an European is someone born in Europe, or someone living in it for a long time.

In the EU terms, it's someone who agree to build a union of European countries that would transcend the national differences and make Europe as a whole stronger.

	16-05-2002 00:54									#129
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Your accusations of other posters ... "lacking the mind" for stuff or "having the heads of water melons" tell a lot about you, moer than you might think they do. In fact it's not the attitude you should show on a board, especially not when dealing with a foreign speaker who might just be learning the language (so much for phrasing points as in lacking mind) as well as being a little more idealist at dealing with matters like peace&war. As for Greeks and Swedes, they were raised in different systems, have common sense, don't think might makes right. That's the differences, and most of us know them. You just put it as "those that I don't like are stupid and the rest lacks the mind". Putting differences in such a way can't earn you a high reputaiton as a debater. Besides, debates with you in them are flame fests usually, don't know who to blame though (disclaimer: it's not only you, it's Greeks and Swedes as well)

	16-05-2002 00:55									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson I'm confused...isn't it possible for Britain to forge closer links with both Europe and America? Surely everyone living on both continents would benefit as a result.

yeah, but much of the appeal of the EU is creating an entity to rival the US. Just read the comments on this board. It's not about growing closer to your neighbors. It's about rivalry with the US...

	16-05-2002 00:55									#131
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quote: Many threads end up in a "The EU will soon be bigger/better/stonger/richer/etc. than the US!" versus "No it won't! USA rules!" cluster****.

They may end up that way, but by then, the smilie to word ratio is almost 1:1 its not serious.
The real antagonism is not over how European countries are jealous of america. We b!tch about you, and americans can (in their words) "never do anything right". We don't want to be top dog. What would be nice is for our allies to respect our opinion, and take our voices into account when constructing what passes for a foreign policy.

	16-05-2002 00:56									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 I like the little twit.

I like his real-life persona, he is a good friend.

His online persona however, let's not go into that.

	16-05-2002 00:56									#133
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I agree though, people just "lack the mind" to compromise

	16-05-2002 00:58									#134
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So... how about a US/EU/UK superstate? Then we can all pick on the Chinese

	16-05-2002 00:58									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Akka le Vil Technically, an European is someone born in Europe, or someone living in it for a long time. In the EU terms, it's someone who agree to build a union of European countries that would transcend the national differences and make Europe as a whole stronger.

Just like Alabama and California working together for the common good of the United States.

	16-05-2002 00:59									#136
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I thought the UK was a part of the EU

	16-05-2002 01:01									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Your accusations of other posters ... "lacking the mind" for stuff or "having the heads of water melons" tell a lot about you, moer than you might think they do.

If you don'y want my opinion, don't ask.

quote: In fact it's not the attitude you should show on a board, especially not when dealing with a foreign speaker who might just be learning the language (so much for phrasing points as in lacking mind) as well as being a little more idealist at dealing with matters like peace&war.

The fact is, I used to use fact and reason, and got it thrown in my face continually by idiots.
You get what you deserve, dear boy.

quote: As for Greeks and Swedes, they were raised in different systems, have common sense, don't think might makes right.

My nation was built on the concept that might doesn't make right.
You suffer from the #1 Euro disease, being a preacy little swine.

quote: That's the differences, and most of us know them.

Andy, you don't know squat about Americans, that is obvious from just a superfical view of the comments made our way.

quote: You just put it as "those that I don't like are stupid and the rest lacks the mind".

Nonsense.
I judge you by what you say and how you act.
You don't want to treated like a fool, don't act like one.

quote: Putting differences in such a way can't earn you a high reputaiton as a debater. Besides, debates with you in them are flame fests usually, don't know who to blame though (disclaimer: it's not only you, it's Greeks and Swedes as well)

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

I always try to argue points from facts, most of your little friends don't want to listen, so they get the contempt they so richly earn.

	16-05-2002 01:01									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I thought the UK was a part of the EU

From the way everyone talks, they really aren't.

	16-05-2002 01:04									#139
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quote: If you don'y want my opinion, don't ask.

He didn't. He asked for an explaination.

	16-05-2002 01:32									#140
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 And BTW, Bye for good. I'm sick and tired of having to listen to racist stereotypes of brits and yankees and their lackeys polar bear bastards, who when they can think of nothing better to say, they jump on their pathetic racism. Sayionara and it is easy to read if you turn your head to the right.

Was it something I said? Past wounds from Bob Dornan? Too much grab ass with Kittyhorse?

	16-05-2002 01:36									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Your accusations of other posters ... "lacking the mind" for stuff or "having the heads of water melons" tell a lot about you, moer than you might think they do. In fact it's not the attitude you should show on a board, especially not when dealing with a foreign speaker who might just be learning the language (so much for phrasing points as in lacking mind) as well as being a little more idealist at dealing with matters like peace&war. As for Greeks and Swedes, they were raised in different systems, have common sense, don't think might makes right. That's the differences, and most of us know them. You just put it as "those that I don't like are stupid and the rest lacks the mind". Putting differences in such a way can't earn you a high reputaiton as a debater. Besides, debates with you in them are flame fests usually, don't know who to blame though (disclaimer: it's not only you, it's Greeks and Swedes as well)

I like Paiktis and Markos and Kitty Horse, even though they probably think I'm a baby killer.

	16-05-2002 01:38									#142
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 And BTW, Bye for good. I'm sick and tired of having to listen to racist stereotypes of brits and yankees and their lackeys polar bear bastards, who when they can think of nothing better to say, they jump on their pathetic racism. Sayionara and it is easy to read if you turn your head to the right.

Well considering you came into this thread, all guns blazing, calling the majority of the English-speaking world a bunch of arseholes and then have the audacity to accuse us of racism? Sheesh. I was going to agree with the basic premise of your argument about how many nation acts when it comes to the EU, but you got personal, and you don't win any support by doing that. So calm down and see you online tomorrow.

	16-05-2002 01:40									#143
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Actually, this thread is more fun than I could ever have imagined. Not bad for a Spinkytroll...

	16-05-2002 01:58									#144
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The behaviour of Paiktis is quite common for most pro-EU Europeans PH - they detest the English speaking world and the successful anglo-saxon business model merely out of jealousy and spite.

	16-05-2002 02:03									#145
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People take Paik seriously?

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

This is the guy that called Arafat the greatest humanitarian of our day. No one's this idiotic in reality.

Right?

Regarding the special relationship: It's funny how Britain's the only country in Europe americans care about. Greece can be vaporized by turkish nukes and get page 84 of the new york times, but prince harry potter's dealings with marijuana make the front page.

	16-05-2002 02:04									#146
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they spend a lot of time posting here if they detest English...

	16-05-2002 02:09									#147
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How dare you Faeelin. It's Harry Pothead to you

And Stew:

	16-05-2002 02:10									#148
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Seriously Stew, all this talk of 'anglo-saxon' superiority crap is worrying, you are beginning to sound like a fascist.

	16-05-2002 02:13									#149
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The anglo-saxon economic model is superior to that socialistic claptrap you have been brainwa...subscribe to.

	16-05-2002 02:14									#150
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Me brainwashed? Yet that sounded like perfect regurgitated propaganda Stew