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Carver is offline Carver
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I just saw Attack of the Clones and it was unbelievable. This was definently the best of the five Star Wars movies and maybe the best movie of all time.

The sci-fi graphics and scenery...heaven.
The plot...duplicitous and clever.
The love story....sweet, and it doesn't suck up too much time.
The battles....more action than should be legal to have in a movie.
The charachter development...everything comes together.

The creativity present in this film is astounding: the ships, the clothes, the buildings. This film is truly beautiful to watch. Clones is the difinative science fiction masterpiece.

I want the DVD.

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Boy, you are just begging to be flamed, aren't you?

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It may be good, but I think you over estimate it's quality. I'll tell you next week for sure, but it better be pretty damed good to beat ESB.

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Did we see the same movie?! Cuz the one I saw, also titled "Attack of the Clones," was horrible. Boring plot, horrible writing and dialogue, wooden acting (especially from the Anakin, ugh), and characters as deep as puddles. And cliche after cliche after cliche.

This wasn't a movie, it was a bunch of barely connected scenes wherein there were lots of pretty, if sterile, special effects. Big ol' YAWN for this one. The fact that it stank even without Jar Jar being pervasive proves he wasn't the fault of the last one, it was bad on its own right.

Stick to the Empire Strikes Back. At least those characters are worth caring about...

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I'll tell you next week for sure, but it better be pretty damed good to beat ESB.


It doesn't beat it. It is an adequate apology for the Phantom Menace.

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I agree with you on the AOTC is a good Star Wars movie but it still is not as good as Empire. Why you ask? The insanly poor love scenes! I almost fell asleep at the 12:01 showing during that very boring scene with the big pig thing. BUt where this movie comes off strong is in two specific parts. When Yoda does Monkey moves to fight Dooku and when Samuel L. cuts off that damn Jango Fett's head. Overall it could of been better but it was good. Also that stupid Anakin needs to STOP his whining.

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I haven't seen the movie, but the acting in the previews (where they usually hilight the best parts) seems to be done by an Amateur Theatre Troupe.

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It doesn't beat it. It is an adequate apology for the Phantom Menace.


I can't even say that. I really so no difference in the quality of the two films, other than the blessed lack of Jar Jar. But it still stank, I thought.

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When Yoda does Monkey moves to fight Dooku and when Samuel L. cuts off that damn Jango Fett's head.



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I really so no difference in the quality of the two films, other than the blessed lack of Jar Jar. But it still stank, I thought.


We'll have to agree to disagree then.

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when Samuel L. cuts off that damn Jango Fett's head. Overall it could of been better but it was good. Also that stupid Anakin needs to STOP his whining.


Lucas has the incredible ability to kill the characters people like best and leave us with Jar Jar and Ewoks.

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Did we see the same movie?! Cuz the one I saw, also titled "Attack of the Clones," was horrible. Boring plot, horrible writing and dialogue, wooden acting (especially from the Anakin, ugh), and characters as deep as puddles. And cliche after cliche after cliche.



Some of the dialogue is cold, but that's classical acting. You could say the same thing about Shakespear. I like the classy and dignified conversations. The pauses, and the looks on the charachters' faces tell so much. This isn't some 90 minute comedy full of obscenities that no one will remember two years from now. This is a film for the ages and, as such, demands a proper presentation.

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It may be good, but I think you over estimate it's quality. I'll tell you next week for sure, but it better be pretty damed good to beat ESB.


ESB #1!

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and when Samuel L. cuts off that damn Jango Fett's head.


That scene always gets cheers, although the people I was with couldn't help but expect a "mutha f****a" line from Sammy.

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Some of the dialogue is cold, but that's classical acting.


WHAT?! Have you only seen college productions of Shakespeare? There is nothing cold about great Shakespearian acting. Just watch on Olivier film. Or McKellen, for that matter. No decent Shakespearian actor I know (and I know many who do Summerstock here in NY) would find a bit of truth in this statement. Ludicrous.

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The pauses, and the looks on the charachters' faces tell so much.


The looks were, for the most part vacant. They didn't tell anything, because, thanks to Lucas's crappy directing, the actors had no clue what was going on. It's not their fault, it's his.

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This isn't some 90 minute comedy full of obscenities that no one will remember two years from now.


No, it's a pretentious, 2-hour borefest that no one will remember two years from now. Like TPM, it will collect dust on video shelves.


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This is a film for the ages and, as such, demands a proper presentation.


Ages 6-10 only, it seems. Anyone wanting more intelligent filmmaking must look elsewhere...

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I rather enjoyed it, except for the completely trite love story and Anakin's horrible acting. Geez, you'd think Jedi training would include Talking to Girls for Dummies and Public Speaking 101.

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clones sucked arse, the only way it kicked arse was if it kicked its own arse. check my sig for a great line from the movie. did anyone else notice that they used some of the same cheasy lines from episodes4-6? Anakin was awful, he sucked, end of story.

oh yeah, the people i shared the theater with did at least 3 standing ovations during the movie and was cheering and shouting 4 more times while the movie was still playing people need to calm down, its not like the actors can hear you, and some of us are actually trying to pay attention to the terrible dialogue.

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Here is my ranking of the Star Wars movies as of today
1. Return of the Jedi
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Attack of the Clones
4. A New Hope
5. Phantom Menace

I agree with Floyd (twice in a week, who would have thought it?). It was otherwise excellent other than a weak love story and poor acting on Hayden Christenson's part. I'm actually one of those types of guys who enjoys a good love story, but this one was poor, IMHO.
That said, Lucas has successfully regained form.

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The fighting certainly kicked ass, and let's face it, for what other reason does one see Star Wars?

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yeah, i guess i can agree with your rankings monkspider. although a new hope comes close to beating out clones

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Anyone think that Jar-Jar may eventually be looked upon with relative fondness as the ewoks have come to be (at least to some degree)? Or is the controversy surrounding Jar-Jar's character too much to ever be overcome?

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Ewoks are looked at fondly???

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I always assumed so, I like Ewoks at least.

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You know I have been thinking. And I just realized the original films weren't that great. We were kids when we saw them, this is why we think they are so great.

Lucas cannot direct. 'nuff said.

The best he can do is put together unrealistic fight scenes.

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I always assumed so, I like Ewoks at least.


Ewoks was Lucus's first mis step in the Star Wars saga. They suck and they ruined RTJ. The only consolation I get from RTJ is the resulting Ewok Holocaust

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The circumstances at the end of Return of the Jedi lead inevitably to an environmental disaster on the Endor moon. The explosion of a small artificial moon in low orbit sends a meteoric rain onto the ewok sanctuary, on a scale unmatched since Endor formed. Through either direct atmospheric injection of small particles, or showers of ejecta from large impacts, the atmosphere will be filled with smoke and fallout causing a gargantuan nuclear-winter effect.



And to think this site is a hobby for the guy.

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I just saw Attack of the Clones and I thought it was okay, but it missed a chance of being great.

There's a scene with Dookus and Obi Wan (If you haven't seen the movie don't read any further) where Dookus says he's on the good side, trying to stop the Sith. If this idea had been developed further, it would have been great. It could set the stage for a split among the Jedi.


When Doofus says this stuff, I thought, all right, now things are getting interesting. But instead Dookus ends up being just another servant of the dark lord. Boring.

The other thing that bugs me is where did all the military ships come from? We know where the clones were made, but what about the starships and those copter-like flyers.

And there's no explanation about the clones becoming the army of the republic. Wouldn't someone ask about how these clones came into existence and who gave the order to create them?

The latter two problems could have been dealt with quickly in two scenes, but it just gets glossed over.

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It was The Last Crusade to Episode 1's Temple of Doom. Progress, but barely measurable. As bad as episode 1 was (and to be honest, I kinda liked it), I don't remember people laughing in the theater at so many non-intentionally funny moments. 2+ hour science fiction/action movies should have more 'neato' moments than you can get your mind around. This one had like 5. And if "I hate it when he does that" passes for wit in Lucas' mind, he needs to get more. I get the distinct impression all his cronies we're watching George run amok and saying "Yeah George, great idea. But can we lower the light levels in the yoda battle?". He's like an indie film maker in the sense he doesn't care about what people think about his movie, but an indie film maker with a blank check. Nobody wants to read a poem by someone who can't write a coherent paragraph, and what we have here is an epic poem by someone barely conversational in film.

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Here is my ranking of the Star Wars movies as of today
1. Return of the Jedi
2. Empire Strikes Back
3. Attack of the Clones
4. A New Hope
5. Phantom Menace

I agree with Floyd (twice in a week, who would have thought it?). It was otherwise excellent other than a weak love story and poor acting on Hayden Christenson's part. I'm actually one of those types of guys who enjoys a good love story, but this one was poor, IMHO.
That said, Lucas has successfully regained form.



I really don't understand why anyone would put ESB anything but No. 1. IMO it is easily the best of the bunch. My star ratings:

ESB: ****
RoTJ: ***
A New Hope: ***
AoTC: **
TPM: *1/2

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ESB: ****
RoTJ: ***
A New Hope: ***
AoTC: **
TPM: *1/2


If TPM was one and a half, what would Lucas have to do for a one?

An Evok/Jar Jar romance movie?

My take take on AotC: Special effects are getting real good there days, aren't they? Perhaps we should start using them in movies!

 
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