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Lincoln
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Latest news:
Indian Army on six-hour alert
18 May 2002: The Indian Army has been put on a six-hour alert and the cabinet committee on security will today consider military options against Pakistani terrorism that revolve around air raids on terror camps and limited capture of strategic territory, top officials said.
Officials also said that the Indian Army has been put on less than six-hour alert in the northern sector where an Indian offensive is being planned against Pakistan.
Indian forces were so far on training mode.
India deployed the largest strength of troops since the 1971 Bangladesh War on the common border with Pakistan following the 13-December-2001 Pakistani terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.
Officials said that all non-field formations responsible for setting up supply routes have been pressed into action again.
“The focus is on a limited offensive in the northern sector,” an official said.
Military circles are widely discussing an old option to seize Haji Pir pass captured and returned in the 1965 war with Pakistan.
A captured Haji Pir will connect Uri to Poonch and limit cross-border terrorism.
In a winter offensive, India was planning to open a second front in the desert.
But officials said that most of the strike elements have been moved to Punjab.
Analysts said that this indicated that if the war escalates, India could open a second front in the plains of Punjab.
“Our understanding,” said an official, “is that if Pakistan does use the limited nuclear strike option against our troops, it would be better to face it in the scarcely-populated desert than in agriculturally-rich, densely-populated Punjab.”
This is one major drawback with opening a second front into Pakistan from Punjab.
Officials said that India expects the United States to come down heavily on Pakistan either if it escalates the conventional war (which India thinks it cannot win) or if it goes for a nuclear strike.
http://intelligenceonline.net/log.asp
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Ned
Now you are really starting to sound like a Nazi.
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You got it wrong. I'm talking long time global effects.
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Guynemer
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I really, really hope this is all just some macho small-**** compensating sabre-rattling, but I'm getting a bad feeling...
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Guynemer
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You mean, besides Iran?
There's a scary thought.
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Faeelin
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Tau Ceti
Oct 2001
time: 05:19
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Don't be so sure about the plebiscite. Most Kashmiris actually prefer India, believe it or not.
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OzzyKP
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Rockville, MD
Oct 1999
time: 00:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
The Pakistani people would focus on the Indian invaders, so Musharraf wouldn't need to worry about them. Foreign invasions have a way of uniting the populace behind the governemnt in power. Musharraf, offered a choice between covert aid and US opposition, would not oppose US forces moving into the tribal area, where currently there are no Pakistani forces. With Indians moving across the border, I doubt Musharaff would divert his forces against the USA. |
I disagree, often during large scale wars, the loosing country will experience revolution. The government in power is weakened in the war, so the revolutionaries take the opportunity to sieze power. It happened in France in 1870, it happened in Russia in 1917, I believe it happened in Germany at the end of WW1 too, though smaller.
So I predict India will invade, Musharaff will fight back conventionally and will get ass kicked. Then Islamic Fundementalists (who are already gaining power) will dispose Musharaf and then use the Nuke Arsenal on India.
The US is in a unique position, the events on September 11 and the subsequent war on terror has caused all this to happen. As the world's only Superpower, major governents have been hesitant to take actions against the interests of the US or be blacklisted (or invaded). Now with Bush's proclamation that we will fight terrorism wherever it exists it has encouraged hardline resposes in places like Israel and India who are dealing with their own terrorism problems.
The US is in trouble though because in our attempt to pretend we aren't against all Islam with our War in Afganistan we have buddied up with Pakistan, a nation with no clean record on terrorism. So now the US is screwed either way, it goes against Bush's rhetoric to support Pakistan, but to oppose Pakistan goes against our interests of catching Al Quida and stopping future attacks. India is determined to use our forceful anti-terrorist rhetoric to their advantage, knowing that there is no way we could support Pakistan if it came to blows. This may be their best opportunity to attack.
I agree it is very troubling. I have been worried for years, heck my college entrance essay was written about a fictitious future war between Pakistan and India. I hope it doesn't get bad, and I hope it doesn't drag in the rest of the world.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:19
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Actually, I don't think that Pakistan will just get rolled over. Yes, India has a preponderance of forces, and a much larger navy, but I would consider Pakistan's air force to be of a higher quality. Also, man for man, I think that Pakistan's army is superior. On the defensive, Pakistan has a chance, and at the risk of sounding totally callous, an India-Pakistan war would be interesting to watch.
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Lincoln
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The latest from Pakistan:
India makes final preparations for attack on Pakistan
Updated on 2002-05-20 01:38:37
NEW DELHI, India: (Pakistan Nation Wire) Indian government has initiated their final preparation for an attack on Pakistan it is reliably learnt from news sources in India.
In an offensive posture following War Time SOP the Indian government has transferred the command of its paramilitary and civilian law enforcement outfits from the civilian command to military command.
The Indian Border Security Force and Border Patrol is now under the Indian Army command, Coast Guard has been assigned to the Naval Command, and the Command and Control infrastructure has be transferred from the ministry of defense to Central Military Command.
India is also currently debating on scrapping the Indus water treaty, which would mean a definite precursor to a very bloody war as in the past three wars between India and Pakistan all treaties including the most critical Indus water treaty, was honored by both nations.
Defense analysts predict, that India has pushed it self to a point of no return and in order to divert international pressure from the crisis at home and genocide in Gujurat and Kashmir a war with Pakistan is a must.
In the past fifty years India has mounted a full-scale war against Pakistan at least three times. Analysts also predict that based on past Indian attacks, if India is to attack Pakistan it would be carried out during mid-night hours.
http://www.paknews.com/top.php?id=1&date1=2002-05-20
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The Viceroy
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tu mumbai se, mai Bombay se
Nov 2000
time: 05:19
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There has been a low intesity war going on at the line of control since the last cease fire was signed .. both sides will not want to be seen as the agressor, however, both sides will attempt to goad each other into making the first move. thats what were seeing .. there will be no war here, unless somebody (probably without chain of commands approval) strikes first.
Economically, India is now streets ahead of Pakistan, however, Pakistan has China.. but don't thing for a second that China is a friend of Islam .. not a chance .. (you only have to see how they treat islam in Western China), China's interest is in counter balancing India ..and a long standing border despute of their own.
India also has some medium range missiles, Bejing now falls within Nuke range .. so they will think twice about getting involved if Pak Nukes India. Pakistan also has only short range Nukes .. Delhi and Bombay only are within range.
There simply is nothing to gain from a Pak/India war .. Nukes would not solve anything, and I think both nations know it. so I say, there will be no war, just a lot of hot air.
The US has historically been a close ally of Pakistan, as India has many Communist roots, and a close friendship with Russia.
However, post cold war, India is seen as the worlds biggest Democracy, Pakistan as a military dictatorship .. the only reason the US befriends Musharaf .. is because Bush knows, Musharaf has enough sense not to take on the US, other Pakistani politicians are not so friendly (Al-Queda connections).. so better the devil you know (who squirms) than the one you don't
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kolpo
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The most important thing the US must do is pressure China to stay neutral. Because if China get's involved will india lose, how can the US ever accept that an alliance of terrorists and communistis beats down and maybe takes territory of a democratic nation?
Don't forgot that the Indian local parliament of that region was blowned up. If the same would happen to the US or even Israel would that quite certainly start a war.
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