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MrFun is offline MrFun
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Ned, feel free to start a separate thread on that.

Maybe I should start a separate thread about Islam, come to think about it.

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It's not a war crime in the middle east now is it? So that isn't the entire world.

As much as we would like to, we can't force them to live our way of life and abide by our rules.

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I wonder where the money comes from to fund this program and other programs like it?


I saw the video a few months ago and the commentator said it was funded by the US...

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Dissident, Not a war crime in the ME?!! I'm sure it is. It's just that if Israel captures those responsible, they will prosecute them themselves for murder.

I suspect, though, that once Arafat leaves office, Israel will file a complaint against him before the new ICC. If not Israel, the families of those kill by Arafat's bombers.

These Palestinian war criminals are eventually going to pay.

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I saw the video a few months ago and the commentator said it was funded by the US...


Now that is simply unbelievable!

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I suspect, though, that once Arafat leaves office, Israel will file a complaint against him before the new ICC. If not Israel, the families of those kill by Arafat's bombers.


How many freaking times do we have to tell you, the ICC CAN'T DEAL WITH PAST EVENTS?! Do you ever listen?

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I suspect, though, that once Arafat leaves office, Israel will file a complaint against him before the new ICC. If not Israel, the families of those kill by Arafat's bombers.


How many freaking times do we have to tell you, the ICC CAN'T DEAL WITH PAST EVENTS?! Do you ever listen?


Imran, July 1, 2002. Do you really believe there will be no suicide bombings after that date?

You can clearly see the anti-Israel cabal here now labeling Israel's actions in terms of the new statute. I see the terms "ethnic cleansing" instead of "illegal" settlements, I see "apartheid," I see "excessive force." These terms are all calcualted to fit neatly into one or more ICC crimes. The anti-Israel crew are setting Israel up for prosecution. I bet the first complaint is filed July 1, 2002 by the Palestinians.

Don't you think Israel is doing the same?

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It's not a war crime in the middle east now is it? So that isn't the entire world.

As much as we would like to, we can't force them to live our way of life and abide by our rules.


Oh, yes we can

Seriously though, by your (dubious) reckoning, if Israelis consider it "acceptable" to use nuclear weapons, does that not make it alright for Israel to just nuke the lot of 'em? If all's fair in love and war, then raping, pillaging and torture are all legitimate.

In other words, you're talking out of your arsehole

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I bet the first complaint is filed July 1, 2002 by the Palestinians.


And it will be thrown out as it should be. A court doesn't have to hear every case.

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I bet the first complaint is filed July 1, 2002 by the Palestinians.


And it will be thrown out as it should be. A court doesn't have to hear every case.


The procedure requires an investigation by a so-called Prosecutor, a report recommending that a case be filed, and then approval by a higher panel. It is simply a matter of proof. Politics does not enter into it.

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I think this show is ready for cable in the EU. It would be very educational. Hmmmmm..........or it might give some people ideas.

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I think this show is ready for cable in the EU. It would be very educational. Hmmmmm..........or it might give some people ideas.


hi ,

its allready here , ..........not that show but others , however a show like that is 9 out of 10 on the air when its 00:00 , ......

as for the ideas , there are enough "volunteers" going to Libanon or any other country , ..........

have a nice day

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Have they made a Jihad for Kids thong yet?

If not, then its not credible.

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That article made me ill. I don't have the words to describe my disgust.

-Arrian

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MRFun :
My Grand father was a terrorist for german point of view during WW II.

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Whatever people have to considere the problem as extremly serious. Israeli press is reporting this fact for a mounth or more.
We could found a lot of information on internet about this fact. But many have the same sources.

Apparently no official palestinian reaction on the subject.

If the TV shows was really used as a "terrorist breeding" system
a Blood bath will occure.

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Zobo, I seriously doubt any resistance to German occupation included intentional targeting of German civilians.

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I wonder where the money comes from to fund this program and other programs like it?



Europe

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Zobo, I seriously doubt any resistance to German occupation included intentional targeting of German civilians

Well you could describe carpet bombing german cities as such

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Touché

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Whatever people have to considere the problem as extremly serious. Israeli press is reporting this fact for a mounth or more.
We could found a lot of information on internet about this fact. But many have the same sources.

Apparently no official palestinian reaction on the subject.

If the TV shows was really used as a "terrorist breeding" system
a Blood bath will occure.


hi ,

the press and some intel agencies , both official and private companies have been saying this for years , .........

the Israeli's hold currently more then 8 "kids" , they where found on there way with explosives , or captured after a failed attempt , ..............

as for the bloodbad , we see it every day , .........

have a nice day

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If the TV shows was really used as a "terrorist breeding" system
a Blood bath will occure.


What exactly do you call what is going on now How many more will die before you offically call it a blood bath?

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I saw the video a few months ago and the commentator said it was funded by the US...


Government or Private orgainzation. Who was the commentator.

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What exactly do you call what is going on now How many more will die before you offically call it a blood bath?


Spray is right...

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Whatever people have to considere the problem as extremly serious. Israeli press is reporting this fact for a mounth or more.
We could found a lot of information on internet about this fact. But many have the same sources.

Correction - Israeli press is reporting this fact since 1995, since that's roughly when shows with such moods appeared.

Agreeably, they weren't as extreme back then, but it was already there.

Oh, and another nice fact.

Did you love summer camps boys and girls?

Well, it is the summer of 2000 : Arafat & Barak were camping in Camp David, where Arafat reportedly "strived for peace".

MEANWHILE IN THE PA:

School Kids were participating summer camps, learning how to use firearms and how to hurt Jews.

http://gamla.org.il/english/war/kids.htm

attention: the website is biased towards the israeli right, however this information is relaible since i've seen it in many other sources.


quote:
Apparently no official palestinian reaction on the subject.

I can give it to you: "It is all Israeli lies"

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If the TV shows was really used as a "terrorist breeding" system a Blood bath will occure.

HELLO!!!!

There is already a blood bath!!!

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And USA !

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What exactly do you call what is going on now How many more will die before you offically call it a blood bath?


Well, I apolgize too have used a euphemism.

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This story about TV program teaching children martyrdoom and anti-semitism marked my mind.

So I actively researched information about this.

Official palestinian response about anti-semitism teaching and the case of "Children's Club".

pdf document

If you do some research on Internet of the "Children's club" you will found a lot of American and Israelian site reporting this story.

Then you'll notice that lot of example of anti-semit teaching are the same. In fact this is far from an anti-jew brain-washing program, as I feared when I read this thread.

And the translation of the song of the little girl is very unclear, and i didn't any orginal documents...

Reality, misinformation or exageration ?

Whatever, this case is about 2 years old...

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quote:
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This story about TV program teaching children martyrdoom and anti-semitism marked my mind.

So I actively researched information about this.

Official palestinian response about anti-semitism teaching and the case of "Children's Club".

pdf document

If you do some research on Internet of the "Children's club" you will found a lot of American and Israelian site reporting this story.

Then you'll notice that lot of example of anti-semit teaching are the same. In fact this is far from an anti-jew brain-washing program, as I feared when I read this thread.

And the translation of the song of the little girl is very unclear, and i didn't any orginal documents...

Reality, misinformation or exageration ?

Whatever, this case is about 2 years old...



hi ,

there have been kids in use with the tanzanim as early as 1996 , ....but of course some people would rather see the ZOG brainwashing program then the real deal , ...................

misinformation or exageration , tell that to the people who are dead and their family , ..............

oh yeah , the Israeli's go true the painfull work of rebuilding the doby of the bomber , every time , they try to put the pieces toghether , in the frigo , sometimes it takes up to 6 months , ...
the result , they can tell the age , make a comp id , etc , .......
try to tell them its misinfo , ............
half of the bombers from the last year are below 22 , .......35% below 18 , ...................
if the translation of the girl is unclear , apply to an Isreali court for the release of the documents , so that one could study them , ..........

have a nice day

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Just when you thought it was safe to turn on the TV.

Seriously though, it isn't as if the Jews haven't used Suicide Tactics, as well.

Back when the Late Menachem Begin, and his Resistance Cell, were fighting British Control over, what was then, Palestine, they undertook Suicide Missions, all the time. The Key Difference, of course, is that they had at least some possibility, of some of them, actually coming back Alive!

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It is worth remembering that in those two camps in Lebanon (I won`t attempt to spell them) where thousands were murdered there were two groups of children that are often cited. One was a cadets group - basic military training and the like - the other was a band. None of the band survived the killings but most of the cadets did. Since then the argument has followed, and given the history it is hard to argue against, that it is an imperative that all children are taught the basic skills that they may need to survive in a similar situation.
Worth bearing in mind we can`t judge them on our standards whenthey have been through so much.

 
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