29-05-2002 02:21									#1
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http://www.wtvt.com/investreptr/jihad.html

I cant copy&paste because of the pictures, so just click on the link.

	29-05-2002 02:37									#2
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If this is true, then it's very sickening indeed.

	29-05-2002 02:38									#3
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hey its freedom of speech at its finest. we should have a show like that in the U.S. and see how long it lasts.

It wouldn't last. That goes to show you that arab countries have more freedom of speech than the U.S.

	29-05-2002 02:39									#4
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Why does it say "Jihad for Kids" in English? Or did Fox put that up there?

	29-05-2002 02:46									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Why does it say "Jihad for Kids" in English? Or did Fox put that up there?

The name was mentioned in the article as The Children's Club. Jihad for Kids is what they use to grab you to read the article.

	29-05-2002 02:49									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber The name was mentioned in the article as The Children's Club. Jihad for Kids is what they use to grab you to read the article.

edit: It appears that Jihad for kids is what Israelies use to describe it. Does anyone contest the validity of that?

	29-05-2002 02:51									#7
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and who changed the definition of Jihad to holy war? I heard that it doesn't mean holy war.

What exactly does it mean?

You can see there is a journalistic bias in the article.

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When I wander into Jerusalem, I'll turn into a suicide warrior in battle dress, in battle dress, in battle dress.”


Bravo, bravo, bravo

Wow, this song is really catchy.

	29-05-2002 03:04									#9
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How.....

evil.

	29-05-2002 03:05									#10
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Now, seriously, this is terribly sick and sad.

If the children are educated in this way there is no hope for them, they will fanatical and deranged when they grow up.


The israeli army should do something against the tv station that transmits that tv show.

If the palestinians fathers allow their childrens to watch that kind of tv shows, now I really doubt that the majority of the palestinians wants peace.

	29-05-2002 03:07									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident and who changed the definition of Jihad to holy war? I heard that it doesn't mean holy war. What exactly does it mean? You can see there is a journalistic bias in the article.

Yeah, I see your point. Getting the muslim professor to view the tape was way over the line even for Fox.

	29-05-2002 03:11									#12
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I think it's natural to be biased against this sort of **** though.......

There are some serious internal problems in Islam.

	29-05-2002 03:16									#13
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dammit!!

These kids can watch whatever they want to watch

This isn't any different than kids being forced to watch Barney's message of peace and love.

Their way of life is different than ours. Why can't people accept this? Their way of life does not equate war as being evil especially if it is for a just cause.

We had propaganda such as this in ww2. Some old bugs bunny cartoons had images of Japs. These aren't shown any more though.

	29-05-2002 03:16									#14
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I wonder where the money comes from to fund this program and other programs like it?

	29-05-2002 03:17									#15
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Yes, and no other country or politcal entity has directed propaganda at kids before. Nope, no sir.

	29-05-2002 03:21									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Yes, and no other country or politcal entity has directed propaganda at kids before. Nope, no sir.

Well that explains it all then. They are more then justified in teaching their kids to hate and kill because everyone else does the same thing. Thank you for pointing that out to us.

	29-05-2002 03:22									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi I think it's natural to be biased against this sort of **** though....... There are some serious internal problems in Islam.

There are no serious problems with Islam.


There are serious problems with Islamic extremists who have no right to call themselves Muslims, because they have twisted the religion of Islam for their own evil, diabolical plans.

	29-05-2002 03:23									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun There are no serious problems with Islam. There are serious problems with Islamic extremists who have no right to call themselves Muslims, because they have twisted the religion of Islam for their own evil, diabolical plans.

The problem is that these extemists rule the Muslim countries and make such TV programs. The little sanity that still exists today will dissapear by the next generation.

	29-05-2002 03:25									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident dammit!! These kids can watch whatever they want to watch This isn't any different than kids being forced to watch Barney's message of peace and love. Their way of life is different than ours. Why can't people accept this? Their way of life does not equate war as being evil especially if it is for a just cause. We had propaganda such as this in ww2. Some old bugs bunny cartoons had images of Japs. These aren't shown any more though.

So, suicide bomber is a reasonable vocation because of their special "way of life"?

They are ruining their minds.
I dont know if there is going to be much hope for them when they became adults.

If exploding for Allah is the right thing to do.

	29-05-2002 03:25									#20
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Eli, what sanity?

	29-05-2002 03:26									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Well that explains it all then. They are more then justified in teaching their kids to hate and kill because everyone else does the same thing. Thank you for pointing that out to us.

I'm not saying they are justified - I'm just saying that every other country on the face of the planet does the same thing, and it's hypocritical to single out only one incident.

	29-05-2002 03:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Eli The problem is that these extemists rule the Muslim countries and make such TV programs. The little sanity that still exists today will dissapear by the next generation.

The OTHER problem is that too many people seem to be confusing as to what is legitimate Islamic religion, and the extremists who have no right to call themselves Muslims.

Yes, there are rogue nations that operate on this very extremism, but that does not mean we should treat Islam, the legitimate religion itself, as THE problem.

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quote: Originally posted by Osweld I'm not saying they are justified - I'm just saying that every other country on the face of the planet does the same thing, and it's hypocritical to single out only one incident.

Well, duh. Everyone here is a hypocrite from time to time. There wouldn't be many threads here if we weren't

	29-05-2002 03:32									#24
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well I already said terrorism is a legitimate form of warfare in a thread last year.

they can attack us if they want. And if we so choose, we can attack them and wipe them out. we also have a right to defend ourselves.

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Dissident, terrorism is NOT legitimate.

	29-05-2002 03:36									#26
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well I said it is legitimate. What are ya going to do about it . I had a thread on this a while back. But that is another thread. I won't threadjack here.

	29-05-2002 03:38									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident well I said it is legitimate. What are ya going to do about it .

Most likely torch your house.

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Then back to my last post about the danger about treating the legitimate religion of Islam, as the problem in of itself.

	29-05-2002 03:41									#29
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he'll then expect to get shot in the process. In my state the citizens are required to own firearms

	29-05-2002 03:43									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident well I already said terrorism is a legitimate form of warfare in a thread last year. they can attack us if they want. And if we so choose, we can attack them and wipe them out. we also have a right to defend ourselves.

Yeah, but Dissident, terrorism (targeting civilians) is a war crime condemned by the whole world. How can it be a legitimate form of warfare?

Teaching little kids to commit war crimes cannot be right.