31-05-2002 22:42									#61
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*Mr Fun totally misses winking smily in post.... should Imran tell him this? Nawww*

	31-05-2002 22:42									#62
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara YEEEEEAAHAAAAAAAWWWWWWW! How's that?

You should put some emotion in that.

	31-05-2002 22:48									#63
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Come on, Imran you're going to have to be nice than that to come off as a Southerner once you go to Atlanta. Even people like me can come off as cold and heartless down here.

But seriously, if all you have to go on is a little of your girl friend's experences, then you need to get some more.

	31-05-2002 22:51									#64
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Facts are facts. Womyn in the South don't have the same oppertunities for advancement down there than they have in other parts of the country. This is VERY well known. Yes, womyn have crap oppertunity for advancement all over this country in the past (it is getting much better these days), yet in the South, it is still lagging behind.

And about the little experiences... the fact that was even SAID, and promoted by a career services staff member, shows how far you need to come.

What makes you think I want to come off as a Southerner in Atlanta anyway? There are plenty of Northerners there.

	31-05-2002 22:52									#65
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Ummm...maybe I've just been away from the OT for too long...but what's up with the "womyn" thing...is that the latest PC craze?

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	31-05-2002 22:54									#66
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It's been PC for well over a decade, hence Imran's proof about the South behing behind the times (Indiana not withstanding).

	31-05-2002 22:54									#67
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Northerners get descriminated against for more than women. Just try going to some Ford dealership and ask to see an F series. You'd get laughed at.

	31-05-2002 22:55									#68
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Oh...shows you how little attention I pay to PC stuff, eh?



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	31-05-2002 22:57									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui *Mr Fun totally misses winking smily in post.... should Imran tell him this? Nawww*

yeah, yeah -- I saw the wink

	31-05-2002 23:02									#70
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Dont forget that in the "real south" driving laws, pretty much like all laws, are "suggestions".

I dont think you need to carry a gun, you just need to look like you have one, or that you can kill without it.

When some moron cuts you off and almost kills you remember this. If you give them the finger you may start a gunfight, but since you dont have a gun......

	31-05-2002 23:07									#71
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Yeah, but I look like the kinda of guy who problably has one. I'm a stealth commie. I look like a bubba.

	01-06-2002 03:49									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Yeah, drive someone nuts, wouldn't it . I can see che at work thinking every girl is flirting with him, but they are just being Southernly . And Southern womyn have some wierd, outdated ideas as well, as my g/f can attest to.

Oh we do, do we? Some of us aren't quite so outdated!

Ishie
Born In SC
Lived In SC all her life

	01-06-2002 03:53									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, you know she's in law school right? Well one day (early in the year) she talked to some down-home Southern womyn. They were telling her to show 'graciousness'. During interviews she should show some leg and look sexy. They told her they were basically in law school to get a man. One lady in Career Services kinda suscribed to that view. She told womyn to take off their wedding rings when they went to interviews. Saying "If they wanted to make a statement, they could go to California". Basically make the interviewer think you are single and available. Disgusting.

WELL, YEAH!! Having recently spent approximately 8 weeks looking for a job, out of all the interviews, only one was with a male interviewer...don't think the female interviewers wudda appreciated such "graciousness"!! They might also have thought the interviewee trashy and not offered a job!

	01-06-2002 03:55									#74
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Ugh -- I'm ashamed of you Chegitz. Why would any sensible person like you aspire to become a Southerner?? *** runs to put on flame-retardant suit before David, Slowwhand, Tiamat, and others kill me ***

Them's fightin' words. Don't forget me, boy.

	01-06-2002 03:57									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui What makes you think I want to come off as a Southerner in Atlanta anyway? There are plenty of Northerners there.

So many carpetbaggers, so little ammo...

	01-06-2002 03:58									#76
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MtG sighting++

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Dixie Crystal's fine, I think they just call it Crystal in the North. I can live with sweet tea, as long as it's not that sweet and has a bit of lemon in it. Can I substitute bsicuits n' gravy for grits? Or just plain homeny? I don't like grits. bunnygrrl won't let me put a gun rack in the truck . . . heck, she won't even let me get a truck. Now to work on knowin' folks with double names.

NOPE...sorry. Gotta be SWEET and Lemon is only for lemonade!

	01-06-2002 04:01									#78
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Getting my post of the month in early - That was June and July's, this is August, see y'all in September.

About what it feels like, anyway. Now I gotta get my slackin' ass back to work.


See y'all around, by and by.

	01-06-2002 04:34									#79
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This reminds me of a song...
NB: This song was written in 1959 and is now less accurate

quote: I wanna go back to Dixie, take me back to dear ol' Dixie! That's the only li'l ol' place for li'l ol' me! Old times they are not forgotten, Whapping slaves and sellin' cotton, And waiting for the Robert E. Lee (it was never there on time...) I'll go back to the Swanee, Where pellagra makes you scrawny, And the honeysuckle clutters up the vine, I really am a-fixin', To go home and start a-mixin' Down below that Mason-Dixon line! Oh, poll tax, how I love ya, How I love ya, my dear ol' poll tax! Oh wontcha come with me back to Alabammy Back to the arms of my dear ol' mammy, Her cookin's lousy and her hands are clammy, But what the hell, it's home! Yes, for paradise the South-land is my nominee... Just give me a ham hock and a grit of hominy... Oh, I wanna go back to Dixie, I wanna be a Dixie pixie, And eat corn pone 'til it's comin' outta my ears, I wanna talk with Southern gentlemen, And put that white sheet on again, I ain't seen one good lynchin' in years! The land of the boll weevil, Where the laws are medieval, Is callin' me to come and never more roam, I wanna go back to the South-land, That "y'all" and "shut-ma-mouth"-land, Be it ever so decadent, There's no place like home!

	01-06-2002 04:39									#80
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Them's fightin' words. Don't forget me, boy.

OMG!!!!

I forgot about you, Michael -- shame on me.

	01-06-2002 04:59									#81
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You can call yourself a southerner when you embrace rebellion in your heart and deny regimentation.

I've always been a southerner. In other places its called being a $hit disturber

	01-06-2002 05:01									#82
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quote: Yeah, but I look like the kinda of guy who problably has one. I'm a stealth commie. I look like a bubba.

Commie's carrying heat!

	01-06-2002 05:24									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Imran, Imran, Imran. Its just that Northern propaganda keeps infusing ideas into your head. There isn't enough TV shows based in the South to give people the correct idea. I know the correct idea, Apoc. Stop trying to pull this Northern propaganda ****. The fact is that in the South, womyn aren't treated with the same respect in the workplace, you can't change facts. And you can't change the experiences my g/f has had dealing with Southern womyn (and I don't think any of them were from Atlanta). I'm sorry but using 'Southern graciousness' to get a job doesn't speak volumes of your society.

I'm sorry for the experiences that your girlfriend had Imran, but I think it may be little rash to paint the entire south by her experiences or anyone from the south doing the same with the north. Despite what others may say, not all people in a given region are the same.

	01-06-2002 05:27									#84
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As for che, there are many subtle things about being in the south. Grits must be a southeast thing cause I can't stand them. If you can halfway relate to this song you are on your way to becomming a southerner.


I'm Gonna Miss Her
(Brad Paisley/Frank Rogers)

Well I love her
But I love to fish
I spend all day out on this lake
And hell is all I catch
Today she met me at the door
Said I would have to choose
If I hit that fishin' hole today
She'd be packin' all her things
And she'd be gone by noon

Well I'm gonna miss her
When I get home
But right now I'm on this lakeshore
And I'm sittin' in the sun
I'm sure it'll hit me
When I walk through that door tonight
That I'm gonna miss her
Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite

Now there's a chance that if I hurry
I could beg her to stay
But that water's right
And the weather's perfect
No tellin' what I might catch today

Well I'm gonna miss her
When I get home
But right now I'm on this lakeshore
And I'm sittin' in the sun
I'm sure it'll hit me
When I walk through that door tonight
That I'm gonna miss her
Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite

Yeah, I'm gonna miss her
Oh, lookie there, I've got a bite

	01-06-2002 05:35									#85
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Great song, Spray!

	01-06-2002 05:36									#86
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quote: I'm sorry for the experiences that your girlfriend had Imran, but I think it may be little rash to paint the entire south by her experiences or anyone from the south doing the same with the north. Despite what others may say, not all people in a given region are the same.

Apparently che has had somewhat the same idea.

	01-06-2002 06:39									#87
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i don't know what kind of south some of you guys are talking about.....
i was born and raised in the south....
grits is not on my list of fave food...
if you like gravy and biscuits , chicken fried steak
and barbeque then you are on the right track...

southern men treat their ladies real fine, if they didn't their
momas would be all up in their face.
southern men are gentlemen to the core...
open doors and say yes mam.
they take off their hats in church and stand when the flag is raised. you won't find a better man than a southern man anywhere.

and its for sure some of you don't really know
southern women... cause they are some strong willed women,
with tough backbones and you won't get much over on any one of us for very long.

	01-06-2002 06:45									#88
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quote: southern men are gentlemen to the core... open doors and say yes mam.

Perpetuating the Patriarchy by the chivalric code .

	01-06-2002 06:53									#89
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quote: Originally posted by boann and its for sure some of you don't really know southern women... cause they are some strong willed women, with tough backbones and you won't get much over on any one of us for very long.

You've got that right! You just described my Wife!

	01-06-2002 06:56									#90
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I work for an executive recruiter, and can tell "y'all" from first-hand experience that Imran is pretty on-the-mark. We have a great deal of Southern clients, some pretty huge ones, and I can't think of one of them that hasn't hired a white male. Several women came back from interviews and complained they felt condescended to while there. One of the biggest of them (a really big one, everyone knows), rejected a candidate due to his sexual orientation (after which I demanded to be taken off the search).

Now, to be fair, there are a lot of big Midwest companies, particularly rust belt ones, who are pretty much the same. We actually sent a white lesbian into a major industrial manufacturer, and she literally *****ed out the HR person to their face about how there were only white men in the management. Oy vey I remember that day...

The East and West coast companies we work for, however, tend to aggressively go after women and minorities (Though a couple of the big banks we do business for did recently hire white guys, so it's not like there's "reverse discrimination").