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Henrik is offline Henrik
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A war!!!


Um I mean



France publicly comdemns Brittain for her native agression, she shall pay for her bloodthirst!

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Holland will of course remain strickly neutral, and we ask that Spain also remain so.

France and England are natural enemies, and should be allowed to settle their differences one and for all.

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Fort Tinconderoga has been evacuated and is expected to fall to the advancing English armies.

This war is suspected to play out very different from the last one and the French armies are preparing for a defencive war, however the best form of defence is offense...

A Dutch Ambassador arived at the Court of Versailles yesterday describing in an extremely longwinded and loud mouted way that Holland is now at war with France due to their alliance with the English.
However the ambassador, comonly refered to as Herr A.I. is suspected to not have mandate to declare a war, would the dutch government care to clarify?

(ie sign a peace treaty with me again Chris )

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Consider it signed, that "ambassador" has been sent to retirement, a rather "short" retirement at that!
(about one axe swing in fact )

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OK. What are you going to do, Manolo? If you join with the French again it will be rather a short war!

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hehe!

Oh well, it's party time, everyone invites me but.....

.....

I don't know what to wear!!!!!

I'm in two minds wether the blue and the red sweater

hmmm I will stay at home till I make up my mind

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I MUST go now! I'll play tomorrow...

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Wear Yellow!

What about Spain vs. France vs. England?

Ofcourse I'd like Spain and France vs. Brittain a lot more...

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Any chance of Spain vs France vs England vs Holland?

All against all, no secret alliances or planned co-operations? At least we should get a scenario winner by 1800!

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I'd be in a though spot then though, being as I am neighboring everyone in europe...
Still I do like the idea But then again I am allready the one fighting.

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Again, war is not fair for Holland, stop trying to draw me in, as a republic, I have still been unable to build a credible force, why are you intent on war?

If I had had the Monarchy, and free units to expand, THEN I would welcome a fight, but I repeat:

HOLLAND is hamstrung in this scenario, I cannot be anything but a victim in war.

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Any chance of Spain vs France vs England vs Holland?

All against all, no secret alliances or planned co-operations? At least we should get a scenario winner by 1800!


hmmmm, interesting, .... hmmmm taking into account that i've got too much to lose and too little to win.... hmmmm, what the infierno for the sake of fun OK

but please give me at least one peace turn to get ready

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We didn't get that though Manolo

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but you both were already in a cold war, nevermind I'm gonna wipe you two out of the game

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Anyhow, looks like Manolo is going to join the fun. Welcome, fellow warmonger! Are you against both France and England, then? I have just played my turn before I saw your post, so please don't attack me next move.....Ah, what the hell. Attack if you want to.

From my point of view, the fun has begun again! (Even if you wipe me out Henrik & Manolo, as I have gotten used to )

A cautious start to the English campaign:

1) The abandoned French Fort Tinconderoga has been occupied, and siege works begun outside Quebec.

2) Calais has been (re) taken, after a huge assault by the Royal Marines. For those interested in such things....

British losses: 4 Marine Regiments
French losses: 2 Grenadier regiments, 1 Horse Artillery Battery, 2 Men o' War, 1 Merchantman, 1 Privateer, 1 Trader and the City Walls.

Many British regiments were heavily battered, but many also became veteran...

A fort constructed to protect Calais, and filled with artillery...

OK, Henrik - over to you!

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I expect the Dutch will inherit the smoking ashes of Europe - but like Chris says, they have a tough time making war in this version, and there must be some benefit in being peaceful cheese-eaters!

The Old Regime will go down in Blood and Glory (and a few giggles on the way, I bet).

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Dam if the Souix were worth anything at this time Id take over just to join in the fun and John I always had this feeling you were a war monger!

Could you guys post some screen shots occassionally so some of us can enjoy vicariously? Thanks

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2) Calais has been (re) taken, after a huge assault by the Royal Marines. For those interested in such things....


Nice one, payback for exeter and plymouth, eh?

The Revenge of the Frogs shall be quite horrible!

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Well John, in the next version, you should give nations the option to switch governments, so Holland has a fighting chance.

In SP, Republic is not really that bad, but against the living, it bites.

I couldn't pump out caravans to bolster trade and sci and money, like you guys could.

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True enough, Chris. And in Colonies IV the Dutch will have some options to switch Government (as will every player-nation), but they will be limited in time-window and variety.

BTW, Colonies IV is taking shape nicely, and I have settled on a start date of 1629 (for a whole host of reasons) and five principal colonising nations - the four in Colonies 3.x, plus Sweden..(hope you're happy Henrik and Vegard!)

There will also be a Catholic League/Imperial/Austrian Hapsburg power, plus a make-up-the-numbers Independent Alliance representing Scotland, Denmark, Switzerland, the Papal States and the Genovese and Venetian Republics.

Approximately 300 turns for the SP game, I will make 3 sub-scenarios of approx 100 turns each on the same map and tech tree (but with different start positions and start techs, obviously) for PBEMs.

More later...but I hope to have a playtestable version by Christmas...

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Guess which nation I'll be taking charge of in the PBEM

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  • The Colonial theatre:
    French Grenadiers ambush aproaching Brittish troops near Ruperts House, resulting in the routing of one brittish grenadier regiment.

    Lots of Nouvelle France sailors had to give thier lives driving away the hostile presence at the newly constructed Brittish fort on the riverbank oposite Quebec, the fort was then captured and set ablaze by French regular Grenadiers.

    Smugglers from Nouvelle France are rumoured to have been able to get thier goods safely to the Brittish colony of Boston where they have been sold for a good profit, while the French government can do nothing to condone such behaviour it is not doing anything to stop it either

    Brittish ships have been observed at the mouth of the St Lawrence river, while the colonists of Nouvelle France can do nothing about

    The last Sioux settlement, Wichita, has fallen to French Regulars and Light artillery, these troops are now headed south along the royal highway to assist in the defence of France's southern colonies in Louisiana.

    French troops worldwide have had to be redeployed due to the news of the Spanish Empire declaring war against France and Great Brittain.

  • The European Theatre:

    Fortification complex outside Calais conquered after the defenders where driven off in numerous series of shocks by Cavalry and Light artillery.
    The newly dug Brittish approaches are now being used by the French troops beseiging Calais.
    While the Royal French army was unable to reach the gates of Calais in time to stop the construction of advanced fortifications no doubt taking place there, they are confident that the city will fall none the less as an incredible amount of firepower has been brought to the surounding hills.
    Soon, the confident commander of the beseiging force promises, Any resisting parts of Calais will be pounded into oblivion...

    Calais Harbour raided, the anchored Merchant fleet was torched at the same time as the nearby garrison buildings, harbouring an entire regiment of Brittish Royal Marines, exploded, becouse of French raiders setting fire to the gunpowder storage...
    Furthermore a three decker and a two decker in the harbour of Dover was also blasted to smitherens in a similar extremely bold and daring raids by French sailors.

    The world is now holding it's breath waiting for the Brittish to strike back, and to see what the treacherous () Spanish are intent on...

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Henrik,

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Guess which nation I'll be taking charge of in the PBEM


Bribes are now being accepted....

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what the treacherous () Spanish are intent on...


Apart from the nice shot below nothing really to report

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Da lovely landscape

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I did suspect that you know


How about a screenshot or two from Colonies 4 John, just to wet the apetite so to speak?

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How about a screenshot or two from Colonies 4 John, just to wet the apetite so to speak?


Henrik, I'm sure appetites are whetted already! Actually, I have been concentrating on gameplay, and the graphics are still Colonies 3.x-type, with a few exceptions. Those exceptions have mostly been stolen from other designers and have not yet been properly integrated into a constitent look-and-feel.

Be "Patient"!

Congrats to the Spanish.

Tell me, Frenchie, how the hell did you manage to take out a 2- and 3- Decker in Dover, without scraching the port defences or the 20+ other units I had stacked in there? Weird! When I attacked Calais, your ships (including a Man o' War) were the last to be attacked. Not that I mind, Naval Forces are not going to be decisive here and I would rather lose ships than Marines, I just wonder...What did you attack with - Boarding Parties?

More trenchworks have been dug, approaching Quebec from a safer distance, as the early ones had been sited to close to the city walls, and had been overrun. A Raid on Fort Tadoussac destroyed one old French Galleon in the harbour, but some of our raiders were killed.

The French works outside Calais have been attacked by our heavy artillery, followed up by a waves of Grenadiers. The trenches were overrun, and no less than 5 batteries of Siege Artillery were destroyed! Following up, a large French unit consisting mostly of Horse Artillery and Cavalry were spotted having a group picnic of garlic and snails on the hills to the north of Paris. Our Dragoons swept over them in a single charge.... (Careless, H!)

The defences of Dover have been rebuilt, and our Dover squadron brought back up to strength.

Following the Spanish declaration of war against both Britain and France, a Spanish Galleon was spotted in the Western Approaches to the Channel. It was detroyed, along with whatever unit it had on board, but resisted so fiercely one of our brand-new 2-Deckers was also sunk!

A small raid on Grenada was also repulsed easily. The Dons will be no pushover!

As far as I can work out:

British losses, 1 Marine Regiment, 2 Dragoon Regiments, and 1 Grenadier Regiment. Plus the 2-Decker and Boarding Party noted above.

French losses, 6 Grenadier Regiments, 2 Marine Regiments, 5 (count 'em) Siege Batteries, plus the 7-unit stack, which I think was 3 Dragoons and 4 Horse Artillery from a quick casualty comparison with 1767.

Spanish losses, one Galleon and one unit carried on it. Not sure what.

I still think the attack bonus in MP is too high. A non-veteran boarding party of mine seriously damaged the Artillery Fort in Tadoussac. If I'd had a few more to spare on hand, I might have pressed the attack. Version 3.2 might need even more tweaking...

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Thanks for the screen shot Waku!

What no Poland in Colonies 4? John Im disappointed! And Sweden is now a civ? Now I am intrigued, the European portion of this one must be MUCH more involved.

Henrik just what did you bribe John with to get that one? And thanks for telling me about this Thread, currently this is the PBEM Im enjoying the most! Have fun guys! And please keep thoise screen shots comming!

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Be "Patient"!


I'll try

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Tell me, Frenchie, how the hell did you manage to take out a 2- and 3- Decker in Dover, without scraching the port defences or the 20+ other units I had stacked in there? Weird! When I attacked Calais, your ships (including a Man o' War) were the last to be attacked. Not that I mind, Naval Forces are not going to be decisive here and I would rather lose ships than Marines, I just wonder...What did you attack with - Boarding Parties?


Yes that's exactly what I did, that's why I wrote about the attacks in the way I did

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The French works outside Calais have been attacked by our heavy artillery, followed up by a waves of Grenadiers. The trenches were overrun, and no less than 5 batteries of Siege Artillery were destroyed! Following up, a large French unit consisting mostly of Horse Artillery and Cavalry were spotted having a group picnic of garlic and snails on the hills to the north of Paris. Our Dragoons swept over them in a single charge.... (Careless, H!)


Didn't think you'd have enough men to do that in one turn
France will strike back!

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Following the Spanish declaration of war against both Britain and France, a Spanish Galleon was spotted in the Western Approaches to the Channel. It was detroyed, along with whatever unit it had on board, but resisted so fiercely one of our brand-new 2-Deckers was also sunk!


France applauds both the Spanish and Brittish war effort


France choses not to comment on the loss statistics

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And Sweden is now a civ? Now I am intrigued, the European portion of this one must be MUCH more involved.


Sweden did have a colony in north america for a while

 
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