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Adam Smith
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Jan 1970
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The Chilean judge prosecuting Augusto Pinochet for crimes committed during his 17-year dictatorship, is seeking to extradite Henry Kissinger, the former US Secretary of State, to Chile. |
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Any application for his extradition, however, would increase the embarrassment and pressure on Mr Kissinger, who last year quit France in a hurry rather than submit to a summons to appear before A judge Roger Le Loire, who was looking into the disappearance of five French citizens in Chile during the Pinochet years. |
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Such action would mirror the move by the Spanish judge, Baltasar Garzón, which led to the arrest of Gen Pinochet in London in September 1998. |
Let me see if I have this straight.
Suppose we stipulate that the US was behind the coup that brought Pinochet to power.
And suppose, just for the sake of argument, that Kissinger could be identified with reasonable certainty as the person who "ordered" such a coup.
Why, exactly, are judges seeking to extradite Kissenger, instead of Pinochet, in connection with actions taken by Pinochet's regieme?? Such an extradition request would never stand up in a US court (or in the UK either, I would bet). If these are the types of actions we can expect under the Human Rights Court, then the US is perfectly right to not sign the treaty. The standards of this court do not meet those of the US legal system, much as you Euros are fond of telling us about US death penalty cases.
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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MLK wasn't a saint, Chris. He was fallible. He was also political. He held off for years criticizing the Vietnam war because of his allience with the Johnson Administration. The main group, outside of Black folks themselves, that overwhelmingly supported the Civil Rights movement were the Jews. MLK would have shot himself in the foot by coming out against Israel. Which isn't to say that he only said this for political reasons. But he's wrong about other things (like the existence of a God). He can be wrong about Israel, too.
And back on thread, we want Kissinger for lots of things: Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Cyprus, Chile, Angola, Mozambique, East Timor, etc. I'm opposed to the Death Penalty, but he makes me want to change my mind.
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Chris 62
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But I'm feeling MUCH better now
Jan 2001
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
How can't a nationalist be a civil rights leader? What is civil rights? Isn't it the rights of citizenship and equality of a certain group? Doesn't Gandhi's movement fit that exactly? |
No, it doesn't, as he was interested in a free India for indains through non-violent means, at no time did the equality of all people come into play.
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And now I get words put in my mouth. |
My apologies, I should have said he's "idiotic".
That's your exact wording, isn't it?
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Just because you are losing an argument is no reason to make up things that other people have said, Chris : |
i wasn't aware there was an argument, Imran.
All I see here is people saying MLK made an idiotic statement and not a saint because it contrasts with their beliefs.
Hardly losing anything. 
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If saying MLK wasn't a saint bothers you, then open your eyes to the truth. |
Doesn't bother me in the least, but it does show certain other factors in other lights, now doesn't it. 
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13-06-2002 13:27
. I don't buy that for a second, that he could best recognize racism.
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