15-08-2002 09:08									#391
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weird. I'll look into it sometime

	15-08-2002 13:53									#392
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Somehow this is a possible weakness - it is by far the easiest to go trough a few outlaw strongholds and you will make enough money to train one skill at least to 50%. If there was no training than the game would be much harder. Even though it speeds up your progress, which is the goal anyway I guess.

I think there is someone in Balmora mages guild offering enchant training.

	15-08-2002 18:05									#393
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Already talked to her, but she can only train your enchant skill up to about fifty or so. I'm looking for somebody to train it up to eighty or even a hundred, but people like that are few and far between.

	15-08-2002 18:34									#394
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Where to find all the trainers who can raise skills up to 100:
http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/dos...nd_trainers.txt

	16-08-2002 00:13									#395
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Where to find all the trainers who can raise skills up to 100: http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/dos...nd_trainers.txt

I'll resist for now

	17-08-2002 04:06									#396
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Can't be bothered to check the thread (and anyway, it seems heavy with spoilers in the last few pages), so I'll just ask regardless of whether it's been asked before.

How do I do the Puzzle Canal? I've figured that, except for level three, the outer bits only join to other in weird ways. Level three, i've figured I need to get behind the smoky thing in the centre (thank god for the levitating shrine), but don't understand the clue on the shrine opposite it. Help?

	17-08-2002 05:28									#397
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Jump in the water and drown yourself until you've only got one or two health points left. When you've done this, a bridge will extend, the barrier will disappear, and you'll get all of your health back.

	17-08-2002 14:09									#398
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Jump in the water and drown yourself until you've only got one or two health points left. When you've done this, a bridge will extend, the barrier will disappear, and you'll get all of your health back.

And how was one supposed to find this himself???

Anyway another question... do we need ordinators in the game?

I feel some urge to go to Vivec and get the world of Morrowind rid of evil ordinators?

Does this have any adverse effects on the game? I feel like making a crusade now ... since I am their official enemy now.

	17-08-2002 19:13									#399
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave And how was one supposed to find this himself???

The clue was "breathe the waters of glory" or something. So I tried a water breathing spell, which didn't work, which only left drowning myself.

quote: I feel some urge to go to Vivec and get the world of Morrowind rid of evil ordinators? Does this have any adverse effects on the game? I feel like making a crusade now ... since I am their official enemy now.

You don't need the ordinators in order to complete any tasks, but the priests at the High Fane (who you do need to complete the quest) won't like you if you start killing ordinators, and may make you atone or something before they'll talk to you.

	18-08-2002 01:23									#400
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Ok

what is atonement - don't forget that these guys attack me first, I just need to talk to them

Sooo not too bad (as I found some dead ordinator before, and took its armor) So they all want to kill me because of it.

Just what was this atonement? If it is doable - why not.

	18-08-2002 02:59									#401
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave Just what was this atonement? If it is doable - why not.

Depends on where you are in the game. If they're all pissed at you because you're the Nevarine, then you've got to finish up your Nevarine quests and talk to Vivec before they'll leave you alone. If they're all pissed at you because you have a bounty on your head, then you either need to pay a fine to a guard to get the bounty off (cast "calm humanoid" spells so that they'll stop attacking you long enough for you to pay your fine, or else go to another town where you're not KOS yet and pay your fine there), or else you need to acquire some Writs from the Morag Tong and present them to a guard, or else if you're a Thieve's Guild member you need to talk to a thief about having your fine removed.

If the priests won't talk to you because you killed so many Ordinators (and hence they won't let you see Vivec), then I don't know what you can do.

	18-08-2002 16:13									#402
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Heh - me silly. Don't want to download an 8Mb patch all in one chunk? Simlple answer - Kazaa it off someone. It only has an hour to go now.

Incidentally - is Kazaa a verb? I know Google is, but Kazaa I'm not sure about.

	19-08-2002 00:39									#403
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There is no noun which cannot be verbed.

	19-08-2002 00:53									#404
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A perfect example.

Ok, so where were the hoards of choice treasures in the Puzzle Canal promised to me by the Pilgrim's Path? Huh?

	19-08-2002 03:00									#405
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Your guess is as good as mine. All I found was a lot of water.

	19-08-2002 09:47									#406
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There's (yet another ) mod that expands on this, putting in more daedra and items at the end (of level 5? - I haven't gotten to it yet).


Botheration. Small spoiler wanted...
Just got the Azura quest to wipe out some daedra on some island near Dagon Fel. Problem is that she didn't actually say which one (or if she did it didn't go into my journal). I made it to the one with the big (named) shrine and found a horde of cultist-types scrapping with ordinators. None of whom seemed to know anything about some woman I'm supposed to avoid eliminating.
Am I on the wrong island? There seem to be a dozen or more to choose from (and my clunky system allows me to explore maybe one and a bit each night, heh ) ...

	19-08-2002 17:52									#407
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You're on the wrong island, (one which you'll need to return to later, though). The island you want is northwest of Dagon Fel, just north of the middle of the main island. It doesn't have a shrine, just a shack. (It's marked on the world map that came with the game.) You'll know it when you get there because there are over half a dozen Daedra scattered around it. Whatever you do, don't go in the shack! Make sure you loot all the bodies of the dead Daedra before going back to Azura.

	19-08-2002 23:15									#408
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Hey, how do I get that quest to get Azura's star? I've been to that temple in the moutains that only opens at a specific time, but I got no option to ask for a quest. Where is it?

	20-08-2002 00:16									#409
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You get the quest at the Shrine of Azura (or maybe it's Azura's Shrine), which is under a massive statue of Azura at the southeastern tip of the main island. It ought to be marked on the map that came with the game, also.

	20-08-2002 01:19									#410
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Well I don't get the bounty up, as all these fookers attack me first.

And furthermore, I did a lovely amulet which kills all the ordinators in 50 ft

it is fun watching them fall to take them out of the misery ..

Anyway, I am trully tempted to do that hack, and give those traders lots of money as it is a hassle to build u pt money only to have a few spells cast. At least in Balmore I can than trade some of the armor to get the money back, but still I have to build up the money first which is a pain.

I am tempted.... trully now.

And what does that recall spell do?

	20-08-2002 01:32									#411
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If you cast a mark spell, the recall spell will take you back to the spot you cast the mark spell.

Mine is cast infront of Creeper.

	20-08-2002 04:13									#412
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OOOOO,

so whenever you recall you get infront of creeper?

Wicked....

And what about load, does it take you even if you are overloaded?

I have to do this.

	20-08-2002 04:38									#413
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Oh yes, it most certainly does. I'm planning on marking creeper too - I have a large stack of stuff in Gnisis that was weighing me down, sitting on the ground next to where my Divine Intervention took me...

	20-08-2002 14:03									#414
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Ok two more questions.

1. Who can sell me a mark spell
2. How do I make this creeper with money? Actually I changed his attributes -I have upped him to 500k gold only (and gave him th ability to buy it all) in the construction set, and a new .esp file was created, but when I load the game, Creeper is still the old one.

I know I could probably read it somewhere, but I just thought asking you guys is the easier way around it

	20-08-2002 18:09									#415
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1. I forget, check around Mage's guilds I spose. It's a pretty common spell.
2. When the first game screen comes up, before you actually load the game, click on "options" (or maybe "data" or something). A list of plugins will come up--check the plugin(s) that you want loaded with your game.

	20-08-2002 23:28									#416
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Thanks

asa for 1. I went around all four, but I am just an apprentice in Mages Guild so some of the guys wont trade. I guess I will have to search a bit harder, actually I am at the point in the game where I want to push it all to the limits and that is why I need the money, and ordinators armor will provide hundreds of thousands quickly... they are like a gold mine (and annoying too which gives me the encouragement to root them out)

So Mark spell is all I need now.

	20-08-2002 23:56									#417
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Check around Sadrith Mora also, there are a ton of freelance sorcerors who'll sell to you as long as your Mage's Guild faction isn't too high (which it won't be if you're only an apprentice). I'd be suprised if at least one of them didn't have the spell you need.

	21-08-2002 00:37									#418
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what about the Telvanni? THey might have it as well.

	21-08-2002 00:47									#419
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger Check around Sadrith Mora also, there are a ton of freelance sorcerors who'll sell to you as long as your Mage's Guild faction isn't too high (which it won't be if you're only an apprentice). I'd be suprised if at least one of them didn't have the spell you need.

That is probably the way to go. Thanks

Soon time to go home and do some damage

	21-08-2002 00:49									#420
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Almost certainly, but it's a real pain in the butt to travel around Telvanni cities with fast travel, whereas the Mage's Guilds are all linked with teleporters. But, if he's not able to find the spell from freelancers in Sadrith Mora, then his last resort is probably going to be the Telvanni. (Temples usually don't sell Mark and Recall, instead selling Divine or Alsimvi Intervention.)