19-06-2002 16:25									#1
	Should we have subforums? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Do we need to have subforums in our main forum to find the information easier?
Proposal till now would be for example:

code:

Main forum:
All official Stuff. Department-Threads, History, ...

Polls subforum:
All polls go here

Citizen subforum:
Free discussion threads for citizens and parties, for example. All citizen discussion go here.

	19-06-2002 16:53									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

The news papers, do they go the citizen forum? Anyway, I voted yes...

	19-06-2002 17:01									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

NO! A total waste of time that will clutter stuff up more! Now that we're into the game the administrative stuff (rules and such) will die out and there won't be nearly as many thread!

	19-06-2002 17:44									#4
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

you forget that the civ3 game is much more complex than the civ2-one. many different aspects need to be discussed. cultural assault-programs, military action plans, worker duties.
to this, there comes the polls and the citizen stuff-threads, which will burry necessary information under useless stuff.

i personally am not here every minute or hour or so. i sometimes only go here every 2 days.
so i dont have 3-4 unread threads, but 20-30 unread threads.
filtering information is a pain for me at the moment.

	19-06-2002 17:47									#5
	Inflate your Upload Space

me too...but i dont mind 20-30, i just open them all in separate windows! Sometimes i have 3 pages of windows!

	19-06-2002 17:48									#6
	Get a bigger avatar today!

No. The many reasons why have already been addressed in the previous thread.

	19-06-2002 17:49									#7
	Increase the size of your Attachments

some ppl still have some other work to do in parallel ;-)
well, i manage to get thru, but it develops to a pain.

	19-06-2002 17:52									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

even with 20-30, i dont see how multiple forums would help...it would be more cumbersome for me, i'd have to open each subforum anto see all of the threads and it would take more time!

	19-06-2002 17:55									#9
	Increase Your PM Length

thats why i opened a poll instead of the continuation of the discussion. we will see how many are pro and how many are con, and depending on this we can revamp the discussion or leave it out.

	19-06-2002 19:09									#10
	Got spare money?

After some hesitation, I eventually voted NO.
If we have subforums, it is likely people go check only the forum of their interest, or do refresh this one forum more often. This will result in a lessened interaction between the government and the people, which is bad.

	19-06-2002 21:25									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

No. The game is still being set up. The vast flood of polls will end eventually, and we'll be stuck with a forum divided beyond all recognition (and as Markos said, that will drop attendance). I don' t think this poll matters at all, unless 80 people vote. Markos said no.

	19-06-2002 23:14									#12
	Inflate your Upload Space

I don't see why the polls would end. They are the only effective way of determining the populace's intent. WE've already decided most of the game rules and there's still tons of polls going up all the time. I personally will likely launch at least a poll or two between every turnchat.

	19-06-2002 23:26									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I voted abstain. I think it might be necessary later, but now we have to see where it goes.

It would make it much easier to find the threads that is interesting for each of us, but on the other hand, as some have pointed out, it would problaby hinder us more than we'll gain.

	20-06-2002 00:01									#14
	Get a bigger avatar today!

I'm not sure if our democracy applies to such matters of natural philosophy.

I have heard of other realms that worship Markos and DaniusQ as the creators. I have not heard of any of them having sub-forums. The Gods are not bound by our petty, mortal concerns. They do listen to our pleas from time to time though, so it is not hopeless.

	20-06-2002 01:57									#15
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Mark will only do this if the traffic justifies it and it's probably has to be prolong more than a two weeks.

But the squeaky wheel does get the grease.

	20-06-2002 04:07									#16
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I vote Yes.

I think that the suggested division is very important.
Government (ministry beuros, official threads and announcements)
Voting Booth (Polls)
Senate (The citizens' forums)

It's nearly impossible to follow the game. And I should know! As the news reporter, I just keep on trying!

And frankly, it so happens that there are dozens of polls which are topped and are taking up space.

So about half of the relevant content gets on the second page.

	20-06-2002 04:43									#17
	Increase Your PM Length

Yes, I want there to be a news forum [duh](for the newspapers)[/duh], a discussion forum, a polls forum, and an official forum (where the officials post polls and such).

	28-06-2002 14:33									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

bump up

	28-06-2002 14:38									#19
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

as the poll is closed, we should start rediscussion.
please also read http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=54280

	28-06-2002 14:39									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

continue discussion in there:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=52629

AS I WILL ASK FOR THIS THREAD BEING CLOSED