22-06-2002 14:37									#1
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Korean who?

For god's sake, despite the fact that Korea is a good team indeed, did she deserved to pass to the semi-finals?

Why the hell were those two clear goals of Spain cancelled?

It seems that history repeates itself. After Portugal and Italy now Spain fell into tragic refereeing.

Just read the referees below

Head Referee: Egypt
Assistant Referee: Uganda
Assistant Referee: Trinidad
Fourth Official: Quwait

BTW, I have never seen in my life any referee whistling the end of a game in a corner

Pathetic

	22-06-2002 14:38									#2
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Neither Spain nor Korea was good enough to win that game.

As for the corner I do think the rules say that there's no added time in extra time.

	22-06-2002 14:41									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin As for the corner I do think the rules say that there's no added time in extra time.

Have you seen it in action?

And what make you think that Spain didn't deserve to win? Her two canceled goals?

	22-06-2002 14:41									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen BTW, I have never seen in my life any referee whistling the end of a game in a corner

You obviously don't know the laws of the game, then. There is no added time in extra time unless there is a penalty, in addition to which, the final whistle has been blown as the corner kick was in the air before.

I'm really getting sick of all these people moaning about the referee because their team lost. Your team could still have won.

	22-06-2002 14:42									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen Have you seen it in action? And what make you think that Spain didn't deserve to win? Her two canceled goals?

Well, the fact that they didn't play that well against Korea or Ireland would certainly indicate that they didn't deserve to win, yes.

	22-06-2002 14:45									#6
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I saw the game and was angered by the spanish players lack of will. They didn't move enough and didn't take any responsiblity during most of the game.

	22-06-2002 14:45									#7
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I won't say that Korea was the better team ... both sides sucked for a good part of it. Spain's ball off the post could easily have gone in.

Instead, YOUR guy blew his penalty kick. Oh, and Korea's will to keep fighting had NOTHING to do with their win, right?

Of course, if you look closely, the ref was blowing him a kiss just before he shot. LOL!!

	22-06-2002 14:46									#8
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII I'm really getting sick of all these people moaning about the referee because their team lost. Your team could still have won.

Who told you that Spain is my team?

I am sorry if I don't like seeing better teams losing because her two goals were canceled.

	22-06-2002 14:47									#9
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...need more space on the servers for the flood of lame excuses coming in...

	22-06-2002 14:47									#10
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Well, the complaining would suggest a certain Spanish solidarity, no?

	22-06-2002 14:49									#11
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII Well, the fact that they didn't play that well against Korea or Ireland would certainly indicate that they didn't deserve to win, yes.

So I guess the two clear goals isn't an indication to you that a team diserves to win? Interesting indeed...

	22-06-2002 14:50									#12
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under the new fifa rules, if you dont play good enough to score three goals, you dont deserve to win

basically, the most likely team to win starts with -2 handicap in order to make things more exciting

	22-06-2002 14:50									#13
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That doesn't mean they played well.

Of course, your previous posts are telling me that you don't watch much football, don't know the laws of the game...

	22-06-2002 14:52									#14
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And the King of Excuses comes in to play. I would have thought he'd be too busy still making excuses for buggy software and inferior game developers. Same line of work, though.

	22-06-2002 14:52									#15
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quote: That doesn't mean they played well.

another fifa rule: if you're not really playing good, your goals dont count

	22-06-2002 14:52									#16
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quote: Just read the referees below Head Referee: Egypt Assistant Referee: Uganda Assistant Referee: Trinidad Fourth Official: Quwait

Errr...so just because they come from these nations they shouldn't be able to be a referee? Good one.

	22-06-2002 14:53									#17
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 ...need more space on the servers for the flood of lame excuses coming in...

Yeah , you're right. I am just loosing my time with you.
It seems that winning is what matters to you and not how you win...

	22-06-2002 14:54									#18
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quote: And the King of Excuses comes in to play. I would have thought he'd be too busy still making excuses for buggy software and inferior game developers. Same line of work, though.

third new fifa rule: you're not supposed to discuss fifa's new rules

	22-06-2002 14:54									#19
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How you win:

More goals in the net despite any referee calls you disagree with. If the Spanish had been more intent on scoring than crying to the referee, they might have won. Alas, the children were spanked...!

	22-06-2002 14:55									#20
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: That doesn't mean they played well. another fifa rule: if you're not really playing good, your goals dont count

Er...yes, that was what I was saying. Well put, Markos.

	22-06-2002 14:56									#21
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII That doesn't mean they played well. Of course, your previous posts are telling me that you don't watch much football, don't know the laws of the game...

So you who supposed you watch football you must have seen lot of games ending in a corner

Strange but nobody asked on that.
I guess you afraid to admit it

	22-06-2002 14:56									#22
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quote: Errr...so just because they come from these nations they shouldn't be able to be a referee? Good one.

it's just less likely that they have played in many serious matches this year

	22-06-2002 14:58									#23
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So what makes a serious match then?

	22-06-2002 14:58									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen So you who supposed you watch football you must have seen lot of games ending in a corner

Yes, I have. I remember one very clearly, a few years ago, when either Wimbledon or Crystal Palace were playing (it was at Selhurst Park), when the corner was taken and before it reached the penalty box the final whistle was blown. There have been others since then, but that stuck in my head.

	22-06-2002 14:59									#25
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yin is excused for posting like this as he has 50 koreans over his head watching him

	22-06-2002 14:59									#26
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quote: Originally posted by yin26 How you win: More goals in the net despite any referee calls you disagree with. If the Spanish had been more intent on scoring than crying to the referee, they might have won. Alas, the children were spanked...!

So according to your opinion a team must score three times to have a clear win? Sorry for that but what a rediculus perspective

	22-06-2002 15:00									#27
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quote: So what makes a serious match then?

CL is a good example

	22-06-2002 15:01									#28
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quote: Originally posted by JohnIII That doesn't mean they played well.

Did I say that they played well?
So now you will claim perhaps that Korea played well?

	22-06-2002 15:01									#29
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Hmmm

On the telecast i saw, both of the "clear goals" were offside. They did a slo-mo replay and it was crystal clear that the Spanish player was offside. IIRC in one of them, 2 players were offside. Last I checked, offside is a universal rule and not specially created to screw European teams

	22-06-2002 15:02									#30
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According to these boys, the fantastic referee Ali Bujsaim of the UAE would never be allowed to do matches like the opening one of the World Cup, because he referees in Saudi Arabia . In fact, why not bother including those dirty non-European nations at all?!