23-06-2002 06:04									#1
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quote: Canada Tells U.S. That Inventor Bell No Phony Sat Jun 22,11:12 AM ET OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada answered the call on Friday and proclaimed that Alexander Graham Bell is the inventor of the telephone, no matter what the U.S. Congress says. According to North American history books, Bell, who emigrated to Canada from Scotland, developed the idea for the device at his family's homestead in Brantford, Ontario. He received a U.S. patent in 1876. Canadian lawmakers rose to Bell's defense after the U.S. Congress passed a resolution saying credit actually belongs to Antonio Meucci, who immigrated to the United States from Italy. Meucci filed notice of an impending invention in 1871 with U.S. authorities but was too poor to renew the claim in 1874, allowing Bell to get the patent and the credit, according the congressional resolution. Canadian Heritage Minister Copps said U.S. lawmakers are trying to rewrite history for political benefit. "(Bell) is an inspiring example of a Canadian inventor who, by his ingenuity and his perseverance, contributed to the advancement of knowledge and the progress of humanity," Copps said. The Canadian House of Commons approved a resolution on Friday officially recognizing Bell as the telephone's inventor. Like the one passed by U.S. lawmakers, it carries only ceremonial weight.

Don't you just love the silliness that is the Canadian House of Commons?

	23-06-2002 06:07									#2
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I think they're wrong, it's not the US, it's the Italians. Just look at how Marconi screwed Tesla out of the radio.

	23-06-2002 06:10									#3
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He's not really Canadian. It was a Brit who didn't invent the telephone.

	23-06-2002 06:11									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Asher http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../telephone_dc_1 Don't you just love the silliness that is the Canadian House of Commons?

That's funny, because it was precipitated by a similar motion in the US passed to try to steal recognition from Bell in favour of an American.

	23-06-2002 06:12									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Seneca He's not really Canadian. It was a Brit who didn't invent the telephone.

Bell did his work in Nova Scotia. Deal with it.

	23-06-2002 06:12									#6
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse That's funny, because it was precipitated by a similar motion in the US passed to try to steal recognition from Bell in favour of an American.

Yes, there's sillyness on both sides of the border.

The difference being the US changed the inventor upon new evidence that Bell may not have done it, Canada is stating what we already knew despite the new evidence because there's a Canadian connection.

	23-06-2002 06:13									#7
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Why do you think the US is trying to make it look like their guy did it?

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Asher... check your PM's....

	23-06-2002 06:14									#9
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I'm tired of you, Asher. The US does something and it's reasonable. Canada does it and it's stupid.

	23-06-2002 06:15									#10
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I'm tired of you, Asher. The US does something and it's reasonable. Canada does it and it's stupid.

Who said the US was reasonable? Did I not say there was silliness on both sides?

Ming: Replied.

	23-06-2002 06:17									#11
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The guy was British... I didn't even know he'd emigrated to Canada before now. And I'm intrigued as to the contents of Ming's PM...

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quote: The difference being the US changed the inventor upon new evidence that Bell may not have done it, Canada is stating what we already knew despite the new evidence because there's a Canadian connection

There's no difference, Asher. The US glommed onto some minor piece of new evidence as an excuse to grab a bit of glory.

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse There's no difference, Asher. The US glommed onto some minor piece of new evidence as an excuse to grab a bit of glory.

Yes, it is silly. But that's not my government, this is, and I'm here to b*tch about it.

The US didn't do it in some kind of knee-jerk reaction as part of a persistent inferiority complex like Canada did either. I think there is a difference.

Both are silly, Canada is sillier.

	23-06-2002 06:22									#14
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* The guy was British... I didn't even know he'd emigrated to Canada before now. And I'm intrigued as to the contents of Ming's PM...

The Brits are almost as bad as the Yanks.

	23-06-2002 07:09									#15
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Oh, come on. The guy was obviously a Canadian. Even if he was born in Britain, we're all British (culturally) here anyway!

I am Canadian!!!

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse There's no difference, Asher. The US glommed onto some minor piece of new evidence as an excuse to grab a bit of glory.

We really don't care that much...was probably just some Italian who got a woody for this.

Anyway, Bell probably came to the US to commercialize it, no? Brain drain, kitty...

	23-06-2002 07:25									#17
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.... seriously.... who cares?.... We're all from the Old World anyways. It's like saying, "Ancient Roman invents the phone..."

	23-06-2002 07:45									#18
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This is so typical of the US. Always trying to steal glory away from us, and the rest of the world for that matter.

The inventor was a Canadian, no question.

	23-06-2002 07:47									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Derek Meester This is so typical of the US. Always trying to steal glory away from us, and the rest of the world for that matter.

Since when are DLs allowed to have an opinion?

	23-06-2002 07:48									#20
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Since when are DLs allowed to have an opinion?

What?

	23-06-2002 07:51									#21
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If you admit who you are now, the mods won't punish you very much.

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do...do...do da dance!!!

	23-06-2002 07:55									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Yes, it is silly. But that's not my government, this is, and I'm here to b*tch about it. The US didn't do it in some kind of knee-jerk reaction as part of a persistent inferiority complex like Canada did either. I think there is a difference. Both are silly, Canada is sillier.

The Canadian troll speaks again. Funny how he claims dual citizenship, but now he claims that the US government is not his government. He wants the priviledges of American citizenship without accepting the responsibilities.

There is nothing silly about what parliament did. They spent a couple of minutes re-affirming what we know to be true. The House of Representatives is the one trying to re-write history using "new evidence" that has been in dispute for years.

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quote: Originally posted by GP We really don't care that much...was probably just some Italian who got a woody for this. Anyway, Bell probably came to the US to commercialize it, no? Brain drain, kitty...

Brain drain is lots of hype, no substance. Even only taking US into account we barely run a deficit in highly-skilled professionals, and taking ROW into account we run a fairly hefty surplus...

	23-06-2002 08:17									#25
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quote: Derek Meester Settler Beautiful Bellville, ON!! Jun 2002

I had a "fun night" in Belleville, Ont...

I highly recommend the women of the area.

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What's ROW?

	23-06-2002 09:57									#27
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The brain drain mainly affects Third World countries that have no money to establish modern facilities for their scientists and engineers. It is entirely true considering that there are way more foreign students in advanced degrees in the US than USians.

	23-06-2002 10:04									#28
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Meucci invented the telephone alright, and hopefully the American school books will be rewritten in a few years....

	23-06-2002 11:46									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai The Canadian troll speaks again. Funny how he claims dual citizenship, but now he claims that the US government is not his government. He wants the priviledges of American citizenship without accepting the responsibilities.

Hey Tingkai, here's a newsflash for you.
While I live in Canada, and while I pay taxes towards Canada, this is my government.
While I live in the USA, and while I pay taxes towards USA, that is my government.

I live in Canada, so this is my government.

quote: There is nothing silly about what parliament did. They spent a couple of minutes re-affirming what we know to be true.

Couple of minutes?

	23-06-2002 12:06									#30
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uhm excuse me but if the patent was filed in 1871 and bell filed his in 1876 then the one in 1871 is really the inventor. he who files the first patent is the inventor and the holder of the patent. Its the basis for patent law. That would be like me going and filing a patent for the telephone now and saying i invented it