05-07-2002 12:39									#31
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Well you shouldn't feel guilty because of who you are.
The secret leftist euro communist hardliners wing has finally done it's job for you! Don't let them succeed.

	05-07-2002 12:41									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander They have to be sure that all of their source material (like that crap from the leftist crank at the University of New Hampshire which was destroyed on Apolyton months ago) has been completely discredited before they take a stand. They have a reputation to maintain you know. Apparantly so do you.

Good argument Sik. No rebuttals to their arguments/facts. Straight ad hominem all the way.

Not that I am surprised.

	05-07-2002 12:41									#33
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Dissident:

Well, to be honest, there are times I really don't care for my fellow humans either. I think everyone is like that from one degree to another.

I really don't know sometimes if humanity will ever solve its problems peacefully, not with six billion people and growing. Just more mouths to feed, more minds that will become clouded and so on.

Right now, we need a meteor. Preferably 1- to 3-miles wide. Enough to wipe out most of us, yet to allow the biosphere to recover in a reasonable amount of time (geologically speaking). I remember seeing something on CNN's crawl earlier this week along the lines that Earth recovered remarkably *fast* following the extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago due to that nasty meteor.

Our physical bodies are such illusionary and transient things, aren't they? It's the soul that's eternal.

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	05-07-2002 12:44									#34
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UR:

Why the hell should Sikander — or anyone else, for that matter — have to post some meticulous point-by-point rebuttal every freaking time some Tom, **** or Harry (or an Urban Ranger) resurrects a topic that was discussed "x" amount of time ago?

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	05-07-2002 12:45									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Good argument Sik. No rebuttals to their arguments/facts. Straight ad hominem all the way. Not that I am surprised.

I thought the smiley face on the thread indicated that you were trolling rather than arguing. So you just thought it was funny / cool ?

	05-07-2002 12:48									#36
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So you are suggesting that ad hominems are valid substitutions for real arguments?

	05-07-2002 12:49									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger So you are suggesting that ad hominems are valid substitutions for real arguments?

You would say something like that!

	05-07-2002 12:50									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander I thought the smiley face on the thread indicated that you were trolling rather than arguing. So you just thought it was funny / cool ?

If I were trolling, why did you bother to respond with a flame, thus falling into my trap? If I wasn't, why did you post a flame?

	05-07-2002 12:50									#39
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No, he was suggesting that he isn't arguing seriously because he can't be arsed to.

It's a valid position. I do it all the time...

	05-07-2002 12:51									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander You would say something like that!

Sorry, that was intended for Gatekeeper.

	05-07-2002 12:51									#41
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Pilger is a gutter pinko journo with a troll agenda that lost all semblence of credibility years ago. He really is one of the thriving tapeworms around the fundamental orifice of creation; he is not worthy to gather up his own excrement.

His arguments are ridiculous fabrications and distortions - conspiracy laden tripe vomited up in order to spark controversy, full of cretinous lies and vile bile that shows his thorough perversity and lack of any grip on reality
They have been refuted constantly and consistently.
The conspiracy line, and the Afghan casualty count have been raised many times, and smacked down for the pusillanimous, pernicious p1ss and vinegar that they are.

He even manages to squeeze in a troll about the "Jenin massacre", but one was disappointed that constraints of time and space did not allow him to go into issues of faked moon landings.

Faded Glory's characterization of such parasitic pondlife as "juvenile western crackwhores" is most amusing and apt.

	05-07-2002 12:54									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sorry, that was intended for Gatekeeper.

No problem, my response was a joke anyway.

	05-07-2002 12:54									#43
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse No, he was suggesting that he isn't arguing seriously because he can't be arsed to. It's a valid position. I do it all the time...

Just because you do it all the time doesn't mean it is valid.

	05-07-2002 12:55									#44
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UR:

I'm not suggesting anything other than that basic human nature somehow eludes your awareness.

If I challenged your views day in and day out 24/7 365 days per year, you can't in all honesty say you would *not* tire of rebutting my attacks, arguments adn whatnot. Particularly if they contained innuendo and misinformation mixed in among the genuine nuggets of fact. In fact, I daresay that, in time, you *would* tire of my tactics and either tell me to get lost, ignore me, use some saved "form" counter-argument or ...

... God forbid, you might do what Sikander did.

Gatekeeper

	05-07-2002 12:57									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Just because you do it all the time doesn't mean it is valid.

Man, he's not asking for his posts to be taken seriously. He's registering his disagreement with you, stating that he's too lazy to argue back, and giving those of us who can recognise light trolling when we see it a bit of a laugh...

	05-07-2002 13:29									#46
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Is there anywere in the world were the US can actually have it's missles and bombs hit there target

OH I know where the Burmuda Triangle

	05-07-2002 20:00									#47
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quote: Only around 900 civilian died during the bombing.

quote: It's obvious they pulled the number out of their ass

"at least 3,767 civilians were killed by US bombs between October 7 and December 10...an average of 62 innocent deaths a day", according to a study carried out at the University of New Hampshire in the US.

The 3676 deads aren't figures made up by your "enemies", but are found in a study by an American University.

	05-07-2002 20:11									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Saint Marcus The 3676 deads aren't figures made up by your "enemies", but are found in a study by an American University.

If your going to point out a study by anyone, you should at least point out the methodology with which it was carried out.

	05-07-2002 20:23									#49
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Marcus, as Sikander said:

quote: like that crap from the leftist crank at the University of New Hampshire which was destroyed on Apolyton months ago

I suggest you go searching .

	05-07-2002 21:09									#50
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It is apparent that you will try to hide your crimes by defamating any sources that point them out.


at least 3,767 civilians were killed by US bombs between October 7 and December 10...an average of 62 innocent deaths a day

this is an independent study contacted by your people.

quite damning.

	05-07-2002 21:15									#51
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 It is apparent that you will try to hide your crimes by defamating any sources that point them out.

*cough*hypocrite*cough*

	05-07-2002 21:17									#52
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We have nothing to hide.

We dont go around killing people.

You kill 62 innocents every day.

	05-07-2002 21:20									#53
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 We have nothing to hide. We dont go around killing people. You kill 62 innocents every day.

Now you try to cover up your hypocrisy with mock indignation and missdirection. I'm ashamed for you, Zorba.

	05-07-2002 21:21									#54
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You should be ashamed for the politics of your country and try to stop them.

That much is plainly obvious.

	05-07-2002 21:25									#55
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 You should be ashamed for the politics of your country and try to stop them.

Just admit that you're a hypocrite for being critical of something that you have done yourself on the very borad quite recently and you can stop with the pointless mudslinging in order to cover up your fault.

	05-07-2002 21:28									#56
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 We have nothing to hide. We dont go around killing people. You kill 62 innocents every day.

USA USA USA USA USA

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	05-07-2002 21:28									#57
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As I said before we have nothing to hide.

This was your university.

And IMO you should be focusing at the 62 inoccents you kill everyday and try to stop it from happening.

It is your duty.

	05-07-2002 21:33									#58
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 As I said before we have nothing to hide.

Oh please. Your just spouting rank BS now in an attempt to cover up being called to account your hypocrisy. You know, I know. Either stop it or admit it but please try not to shame yourself further. Its really sad to see.

	05-07-2002 21:36									#59
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You are amusing in your desperation

Meanwhile you keep killing 62 innocent people every day.

People with families and children

It is really sad and unerving to see that you do not care about this.

	05-07-2002 21:46									#60
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 You are amusing in your desperation

What desperation? I haven't been commenting on the study since I asked what its methodology was. I've only been commenting on the hypocrtical and quite frankly annoying statement I referenced at the top of the page. I don't see how you of all people can say it with a straight face.