20-07-2002 11:05									#1
	How hard is it to seduce a woman? Support Apolyton

Maybe 6 days ago I was hanging out with this girl at the place where she works. I overheard her whisper quietly to a cohort "he's so hot".

This past night I ran into her at a play downtown. She was with her friend, let's call him "J".

So just two quick questions for you then:
a. how hard is it to seduce a woman?
b. any specific tips?

	20-07-2002 11:07									#2
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a) depends on who you are

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	20-07-2002 11:07									#3
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a. Would depend on the woman and how she plays it.
b. Would depend on the woman and how she plays it.

	20-07-2002 11:07									#4
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It depends...

How much alchohol can ye afford?

	20-07-2002 11:21									#5
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Women want men as much as men want women; they just want them in a different way. A woman feels like she's giving up her pride when she screws a man she hasn't been dating for a while, so the only problem is getting her over this hump. Make it seem natural, and not like you're trying to conquer her or treat her like a prize, and she'll go to bed with you pretty readily...

	20-07-2002 11:22									#6
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It's important that a woman knows that you specifically want her when you get randy. She doesn't just want you to treat her like the nearest warm body...

	20-07-2002 11:23									#7
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Yeah, but the "he" J referred to doesn't have to be you, monolith. Wouldn't that be embarassing?

	20-07-2002 11:23									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger so the only problem is getting her over this hump.

did ye intend that?

	20-07-2002 11:24									#9
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Not particularly...

	20-07-2002 11:25									#10
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The thing is you don't choose women, they choose you. You're just reacting to her signals.

So keep your eyes open and watch those signals. If she's giving you the cues, just go ahead and show your interest in her.

	20-07-2002 11:34									#11
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It's impossible. They seduce you. Even when you think you've seduced a women, she's just tricking you. In reality she seduced you.

What I want to know is, how do you know when a woman is trying to seduce you? What are these signals you all speak of? I am socially blind.

	20-07-2002 11:36									#12
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Lots of eyecontact, lots of smalltalk, she'll casually look at you when she's bored, excessive compliments.

It's actually quite annoying.

	20-07-2002 11:38									#13
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Not at all. If you're interested in her, it's exciting. If you're not, it's flattering (even when they're uggos).

	20-07-2002 11:39									#14
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It's annoying for me. I hate people watching me, I hate smalltalk, and I'm excessively modest (in person )

	20-07-2002 11:39									#15
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Or, as was the case a week or two ago, even if she's a 16 year-old (felt like a dirty old man talking to her)...

	20-07-2002 11:49									#16
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What if they say several times a night, "Hey Ben, come over here!" and then hugs me. For several minutes at a time.

And what if, when talking to a large group of people, she looks at me.

Would those be considered signals as well?

	20-07-2002 11:50									#17
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You can always grab her ass and see how she responds if in any doubt.

	20-07-2002 12:02									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael What I want to know is, how do you know when a woman is trying to seduce you? What are these signals you all speak of? I am socially blind.

Okay, the nonverbal cues include:

- Frequent eye contact, as Glonk pointed out. Pay attention to the duration of eye contacts too. Ones that are abnormally long (you think she's staring at you) or short (that she looks away quickly as if she doesn't want you to notice that she's looking at you).

- Her orientation. For example, if there are three people talking, will her body and your body face each other directly so the third person seems to be shut out.

- How her feet (standing) or knees (sitting) points. At you, preferably

- Signs of nervousness, such as playing with her hair.

- When she starts licking her finger while looking at you from the corner of her eye. You cannnot miss this one

	20-07-2002 12:04									#19
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Or if she starts licking YOUR fingers. Definite giveaway.

**Sorry, couldn't resist**

	20-07-2002 12:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael What if they say several times a night, "Hey Ben, come over here!" and then hugs me. For several minutes at a time. And what if, when talking to a large group of people, she looks at me. Would those be considered signals as well?

More or less.

Other signals include:

- When there is a choice of where to sit, she sits next to you
- Frequent body contacts
- Pupil dilated (this is a definite signal)
- Grooming
- Frequent self-touching

	20-07-2002 12:07									#21
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Or a more modern example is when the girl keeps asking for your ICQ/MSN/AIM contact information "just for fun" or something like that...

That's how I got my first girlfriend...I was foolish enough to think she wasn't flirting with me, gave her my ICQ#, and she ended up talking about how much she was obsessed with me over ICQ that night. Then she went on like "Oh why do I even bother, it's obvious you don't like me! ". (I really didn't like her like that). So I asked her out anyway, out of sympathy. Anyway she didn't last long.

	20-07-2002 12:11									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger - Pupil dilated (this is a definite signal)

That reminds me of either Data or Seven, I don't remember which one. The fact that they notice that.

She has licked my finger...

	20-07-2002 12:13									#23
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Frogger 16 is nothing i was talkin to this chick who was HOT, i found out later she was 14!! ewwww

	20-07-2002 12:14									#24
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If she has licked your finger why are you on 'poly?

Go get her boy

	20-07-2002 12:15									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger - Pupil dilated (this is a definite signal)

Then again, she might just be high. See my first post in this thread.

Heh heh heh.

	20-07-2002 12:15									#26
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I'm wondering the same thing...

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quote: Originally posted by Dan Severn Then again, she might just be high. See my first post in this thread. Heh heh heh.

Don't think alcohol is going to affect the size of your iris. Amount of ambient light will, however.

So why do you think candlelight dinners are considered romantic?

	20-07-2002 12:21									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Don't think alcohol is going to affect the size of your iris.

High != Drunk

	20-07-2002 12:21									#29
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The reasons are three!

(1) Her and I are actually good friends.

(2) She has a boyfriend.

(3) And she wasn't entirely sober when this licking occurred...

	20-07-2002 12:26									#30
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I just meant that any type of intoxication...

paves the road...

And paints the centerstripe...

Not to mention the speed limit is raised by a good 50 mph.