25-07-2002 01:41									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Edrix That's probably a good idea for later. But at a time when we have about 7 cities max, we wouldn't have too many mayors.

I like the way that you are already counting some of Americas cities as our own.

	25-07-2002 01:44									#62
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quote: Originally posted by OPD I like the way that you are already counting some of Americas cities as our own.

I'm an optimist, so sue me.

	25-07-2002 01:52									#63
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They are ours. All of the world is ours, if we can take it.

	25-07-2002 02:00									#64
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Our mayors have all been volunteers thus far. We actually had mayors before we had governors! Part of being a mayor is promoting your city. Our mayors start a thread about their city and make updates (including screenshots) from time to time. Some of our popular cities (like PDX) have great city threads. Some cities have only recently gotten mayors. It is never too early (or too late) to try the mayor thing!

	25-07-2002 02:04									#65
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No offense guys, but I dont see why this thread should be topped. Its nice to read, but its not vital information. Its taking up topped-space that could be better used.

	25-07-2002 02:19									#66
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And without sub-forums, your top space is at a premium. Activity should keep it visible without sticking (topping).

With your larger player base, you've got an excellent pool for micromanaging. You might do well to make mayors official. Perhaps go with governors who are elected and let them appoint mayors for their province cities?

	25-07-2002 02:41									#67
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With all respect to Mr. Ninot, “…could be better used for”… what? As I posted in the Mr. Skywalker's thread, it’s fun: "Join Today! Recruiting crew for our new ship!" (Everybody knows, is here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...273#post1153454).
I participate in a lot of polls and vital threads, reading everything and trying to understand correctly. And it’s hard for me, my english sucks! Besides, it’s my duty. After a long working day in Banana HQ, I need a beer...

	25-07-2002 02:43									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot No offense guys, but I dont see why this thread should be topped. Its nice to read, but its not vital information. Its taking up topped-space that could be better used.

Our words are backed with nuclear weapons.

Scary, Ain't I?

I know not what this topped thing is. Is this a common adjective in Apolytonia? Is it as common as your bananas. I think whereas you would have a top banana we in Phoenatica would have a corresponding sticky banana. Due to our spices no doubt.

But your country is young. Soon your people will learn to automatically scroll past the topped threads and go directly to the important stuff.

	25-07-2002 03:24									#69
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As the President of Phoenatica, I'd like to welcome everyone in Apolytonia to our embassy. I hope you will find it useful in learning about our people and culture, as we hope to learn from yours. I see this as the first step to exchanging cultures and traditions with both nations.

President Chieftess
- Phoenatica

	25-07-2002 03:29									#70
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honorable citizens of apolytonia!
as the attachee of the embassy, i would like to encourage you and your officials to also estabish an embassy in our nation. i would appreciate to see an embassy thread on cfc made sticky in the main-forum or the government-forum.

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Owner of the phoenátikán ztár with Oakleaves, Swords and Diamonds

	25-07-2002 04:09									#71
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quote: Originally posted by donsig Our mayors have all been volunteers thus far. We actually had mayors before we had governors! Part of being a mayor is promoting your city. Our mayors start a thread about their city and make updates (including screenshots) from time to time. Some of our popular cities (like PDX) have great city threads. Some cities have only recently gotten mayors. It is never too early (or too late) to try the mayor thing!

It would be good to hear what the pres and other ministers think about mayors?

	25-07-2002 04:16									#72
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We're actually debating the importance of mayors and possiblity of deputy governors ourselves in Phoenatica. Some members of our government feel they're useless and are just a waste of forum space, others beleive they're are a great thing to have and want to see more. You can see the debate here.

	25-07-2002 04:24									#73
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Let me give you another chunk of mayoral history. The first edition of mayors didn't work well. The concept then was to have a single thread were each mayor would have one post that they edited to keep the city information current. This would give a spot on the forum where anybody could go to find city info at any particular time. Lack of updates and lack of people looking at the thread severely reduced its usefulness.

The current method of mayors reporting their city info and requests directly to their governors works quite well. A model for this system is Asphynxia where just about every city has a mayor and governor AlmightyJosh encourages and relies heavily upon them.

As a former department leader my opinion is that mayors are fantastic when they work. It gives another avenue for citizen participation in the government. It adds a level of micromanagement and another set of eyes to catch problems. Most importantly, it's a fun, roleplaying experience. Take a look at the Asphynxia province thread in our government subforum to see what I mean. These guys really get into it.

	25-07-2002 04:30									#74
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quote: Originally posted by ShaitanCF Take a look at the Asphynxia province thread in our government subforum to see what I mean. These guys really get into it.

Asphinxians, the Texans of Phoenatica!

	25-07-2002 06:29									#75
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I used to be the Mayor of New Falcon's Haven (guess who named it ) during the "old system" I found I didn't have time since I was military Leader, and New Falcon's Haven has no Mayor right now.

I think they're still reserving the spot for me if I want to reclaim it .

	25-07-2002 10:26									#76
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Welcome Phoenetics! Here smoke some banana peels from the peacepipe with me .

	25-07-2002 10:37									#77
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quote: Originally posted by OPD It would be good to hear what the pres and other ministers think about mayors?

I feel mayors are a great addition to the demogame. Not only do they help with city needs, They add to the fun by organizing city-based events, such as in our provinces of Kashmir and Asphinxia.

	25-07-2002 11:14									#78
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I'm wondering will any of you will pursue a dual citizenship (if you haven't already)?

	25-07-2002 11:17									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Chieftess I feel mayors are a great addition to the demogame. Not only do they help with city needs, They add to the fun by organizing city-based events, such as in our provinces of Kashmir and Asphinxia.

my opinion is that in this early stage we dont need mayors yet, and they would just add more clutter and complication

but in the future, sure!

	25-07-2002 14:14									#80
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goodfella:
as official attachee, i will not pursue dual citizenship. i also will not vote in the polls any more (since the embassy was started).
nevertheless i will participate in any discussion where my private or official opinion will be called for.

i nevertheless think dual citizenship is good and will work until we get PTW. in a PTW demogame, spying will be a great concern, so dual citizenship there will be impossible.

	26-07-2002 02:29									#81
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bump, and top this one again.

	26-07-2002 02:36									#82
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ANNOUNCEMENT:

The people of phoenatica feel great discontent about the so called "detopping" of our embassy. Together with the still not established embassy of your nation in phoenatica, we do not know how we should interpret this actions.

I think maybe this was just a mistake, and if so it should be undone soon.

We understand the importance of having not too many "topped" threads, but as the relations between our great empires are very important for us, we think our representative threads should also be.

I would also like to put attention of the apolytonians to a citizen discussion of yours concerning these matters.

	26-07-2002 06:17									#83
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I am sure that no offense was meant, but without the many, many subforums that you enjoy, you can see that we must be a bit more...critical...of what we top? And cannot afford the liberal topping of threads that you enjoy.

	26-07-2002 07:10									#84
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One hopes that when it comes to the topping of bananas there are no such shortages.

Dual citizenships? Actually, I figured once we get our spaceship built I'd pay a little visit. I was thinking of bringing along a few mechanized infantry, a handful of tanks and a couple of artillery. Thought I'd smoke a few banana peels and make myself King (you'll find out what that is soon enough).

It's good to be the King!

	26-07-2002 07:27									#85
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Careful, donsig. We are a primitive people, it is true. But we are a bellicose, cunning, and desperate people, too. We are not softened by civilized life; we are breeding ourselves to Civ-ilized warfare.
We are, in short, a far more dangerous people than present conditions might suggest.

	26-07-2002 16:31									#86
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i think donsig does not speak for the majority of phoenaticans here. you must excuse his words, as he comes from a time when phoenatica had to stand the unbills of an agressive war against us. one of his beloved cities got almost totally destroyed, and relatives of many phoenaticans were slaughtered.
But these days are now over, as we dominate our world and take the resposibility of the mayor power.

maybe we could find a solution to the crisis:
if this thread is not topped, how about having a link to this thread in one of the most-read threads (turn-chat, explanation or another, or all of them)?
this way ppl could easily find the embassy.
maybe an idea would be to make a thread with links to vital threads. the first post could hold a kind of "thread index" with a short explanation and a link. this way many topped threads could be cut off.

	26-07-2002 16:52									#87
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A link to this thread in the "government status" thread (which summarizes our government, consitution and such) is a perfectly resonable idea. I like it

	26-07-2002 16:57									#88
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As long as its not in too small... ;-)

	26-07-2002 19:13									#89
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Isn't a link like this just sweet ?

	26-07-2002 19:22									#90
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this would be a perfect link to the secret brotherhood