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Space05us
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Originally posted by Space05us
they got spanked in WW2 as well. winter saved them.
Oh great, a glorious representative of glorious American education system arrived.
During our history, we've won a dozen times more wars then you ever have.
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I wasnt making refrence to any other wars.
clearly you dont deny it.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:21
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Power no longer comes from military might, it comes from money simply because nuclear weapons have made massed armies engaged in conventional warfare obsolete. Nations will not risk a conventional war because of the risk that it will lead to all-out nuclear war.
So power instead comes from corporate influence. The economic strength of the United States has far more influence on world politics compared to the stength of the US military.
Just look at how corporations manipulate the American political system. Look at how American corporations influence political systems throughout the world. That's the true power these days.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:21
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I would prove you wrong, but cant be botherd to go look for information on it at the moment as i must get off the computer soon. |
You should better read a couple of books about WW2, Germans or Russian don't matter, only not American books.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:21
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many of you assume japan to be a dominant player in east asia in the coming century. while this is probably very likely, japan is not likely to be a superpower anytime soon. if you look at the economic and military information, you'll see that japan, although putting more money into its self-defense forces, still is unable to compete in scope or training with either the koreans or the chinese; and its economy has been faltering for the past ten years, with no letup in sight.
so while japan will be very influential in east asia and the pacific rim, i'd have to pull the barycenter of power away from them and put it much closer to china.
a unified korea would be very formidable; as it stands right now, also, south korea alone has far brighter prospects than japan, as it may be the first pacific rim nation to make the leap to a service-based economy, while japan remains mired in an industrial economy. there is a caveat, however. unless nkorea's economy rebounds (HA!) and grows fairly fast for the several years before unification--so that its GDP is about 65%-75% of skorea's--any sort of reunification would be disasterous economically for the koreas, as well as the rest of the pacific rim.
why? skorea would be pushed on the edge of bankruptcy, because it does not have the finances to bring nkorea to skorea's standards of living. (i doubt any country does, save the us.) and with skorea near bankrupt, or bankrupt, any economic news from japan would be bad. primarily because skorea is not only one of japan's biggest trading partners, but also because a weaker won results in more competitive korean goods-- resulting in cheaper japanese products in an already cash-strapped japanese economy.
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Main_Brain
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Economic World Center
Jul 2002
time: 06:21
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There aint no 'best Tank' it depends on quite some factors Me would think.
China will rise through massive EU-Cooperation and will dominate the Asian Sector. Then will annex Taiwan and noone can do anything about it.
Russia - waitn see
EU- Equal Power to US but too disorganized
US- In decline ( Playing World Commander is damn expensive and w/o a Major Counterpart.. 'prolly too expensive)
I dont see how either any ME or India could achieve SuperPower staus within the next decades
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Krayzeenbk
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Arbitrary predictions.........
The U.S. isn't leaving for at least several decades, and even then if it does, it will bounce back.
So will Russia, in towards the end of our lifetimes (maybe towards the middle).
As for Asia, there are still plenty of problems to be overcome, but obviously China with the economic capacity given to it by its population is and will be a very serious player.
As for everything else that has been said:
1) Russia IS a regional power, it regularly bosses neighbors around, signs favorable "friendship" treaties with central asian nations, Russian big business is all over Eastern Europe now. Although of course many nations still would look to NATO for assistance, Russia definetely has trump cards to play.
2) Russia is a candidate for superpower status, only for the reason that it maintains an enormous nuclear arsenal - and it IS secure and operational.
3) Any kind of question as to the territorial integrity of Russia is absurd, unless you're talking about Chechnya. Do you really think that the Russians of Siberia are about to just declare independence or something? As for Chinese, most Chinese would much rather go to the Chinese south and work in the economically prospering zones than go north to Siberia and work without wages in construction or in an unsafe chemical plant.
4) China is a candidate for superpower status, because if China were to really get in your face over something, you would have to yield. Diplomatically, China has been a superpower for many years now - just look at how the E-3 spy plane negotiations were handled.
5) America will not go.
P.S. I think some people here are real delusional (Russia will lose the far east because of this and that... blah blah blah). I recommend studying the subject if you care, or otherwise not talking if you're just gonna sit in a room in front of a computer all day and dreaming of future wars in your head.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:21
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
 If you seriously believe that Russia didn't get utterly destroyed by the Germans in WW1 there is no hope for you. The battle of Tannenburg was the only time the Russian army looked good in that war, after the Germans smashed them there (old Ludendorff there), the Germans ran over the Russian army. That's partly what made Lenin seem so attractive to the people... if Russia was in Germany's backside, the Russian Revolution probably would never happened. |
My point was that we never lose a defensive war.
WW1 wasn’t a defensive war for us at the beginning. And btw, you should find figures about German causalities on Russian front. They lost on Russian front during WW1 more soldiers then on all other fronts combined. When WW1 turned to defensive war for us, Germans were stopped Feb. 23 1918- first victory of Red Army- it’s a still National holiday in Russia, because just formed, poor equipped, poor trained army created in times of great famine defeated German war machine and saved young Soviet Republic.
That’s was my point, a dozen of countries attacked young Soviet state half of population was on their side, our country was in total isolation and was surrounded by enemies from all sides, BUT it survived and one by one kicked aggressor’s asses.
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:21
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Serb... after Tannenburg, it was a defensive war for you, and the Germans pushed you far back. So far, that they didn't ever worry about your front and sent troops to the Western Front, where the major fighting was going on. Yes, there were some good victories by the Russians, but it does change the fact that the Germans won that faze of the war. |
So what? In 1941 they won a phase of war too, but who cares about one phase? Final phase is the most important thing.
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Krayzeenbk
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1) So they finally decided to improve the security of thier arsenal? Good.
2) A nuclear arsenal isn't a guarentee of superpower status. One need only look at France to learn as much.
3) Russia will only be a superpower again if it learns how to build subs that don't sink to the bottom of the sea.
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1) It never was insecure (to be blatant - you have to be lame, idiotic, ignorant, and living in America to have fantasies about how renegade officers and terrorists have access to the Russian nuclear arsenal. It's just not serious to think something like that. I'm sure the Russians are very serious about it).
2) France doesn't have thousands of missiles with multiple warheads, Russia does.
3) I guess, but then again there are subs that haven't yet sunk circling around our country ready to nuke us to hell, so you might want to rethink that.
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30-07-2002 16:07
It will be a retaliation of any invasion. And rightful retaliation.
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