10-08-2002 23:15									#721
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There aren't that many Milfords in Calgary, Dave.

	10-08-2002 23:15									#722
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quote: This study found that circumcised men engage in a "more elaborated set of sexual practices," i.e. they masturbate more and get more oral sex. Maybe this is because they require stronger stimulation.

Tell that to most American males. I am very happy with vaginal sex. Do they mean that circumsized men masturbate and have oral sex more as a percentage of total sexual activity... or just in general?

	10-08-2002 23:15									#723
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak And, as I said before...I'm not averse to printing this (and other) rather revealing threads up and sending them to your parents.

This is really someone I would like to debate with...

	10-08-2002 23:15									#724
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quote: There aren't that many Milfords in Calgary, Dave.

There's 31, and we're unlisted.

And I'd just like to say how much of a pathetic loser I think you are.

	10-08-2002 23:16									#725
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I lose nothing by having my foreskin off

If the foreskin WAS nothing and DID nothing then people wouldn't be cutting it off!

	10-08-2002 23:17									#726
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Keep talking Asher...keep talking.

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quote: If the foreskin WAS nothing and DID nothing then people wouldn't be cutting them off!

Um... yes they would. And they do. It is a sign of a covenant with God for some people. And for others, they believed that it could lead to disease. This bullshit that it was cut off because it made sex too pleasurable is just that: bullshit.

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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak Keep talking Asher...keep talking.

Don't you find yourself pathetic for stooping to such lows in an argument with an 18 year old? What's the matter, did I make you feel insecure?

Did my comments about the reality of your situation of having multiple degrees and a **** job sit in? Isn't that embarassing for you? I'd be embarassed of having multiple degrees and working as a car salesman, and you're damn proud of it. Good for you.

	10-08-2002 23:23									#729
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quote: I don't plan to tell them or let them find out for any time soon. It's not a big deal at all since I don't act gay at all and it's not like I bring strange boys up into my room nightly.

Dear Mr. Milford...I thought you should be aware of a disturbing situation...

Asher, I make quite a comfortable living, thank you. As I pointed out before, auto sales management generally takes in 6 figures a year. For someone with liberal arts degrees, this is far above the normal expectation of wages.

	10-08-2002 23:26									#730
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak Dear Mr. Milford...I thought you should be aware of a disturbing situation...

Your bigotry is noted. I thought you were a man?

quote: liberal arts degrees

	10-08-2002 23:27									#731
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What kind of degrees do you think your teachers have, dipshit?

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Tom, take a look at the studies linked to the article you hyper-linked. The one study of functional differences between circumcised and uncircumcised shows that the only functional difference between the two was a higher rate of sexual dysfunction among uncircumcised men over 45. OTOH circumcised men were more likely to engage in heterosexual oral sex and masturbation.

Well, the study shows a functional difference, which I think is what you asked for. For what it's worth, here's a recent anectodal report from a foreign student in the US:

Hello, please allow me to send you this message.
I am 24 years old male who had a circumcision as an adult 4 years ago. I was cut right below the glans which removed inner foreskin and all the foreskin components totally. Since the operation, I notice that I can never get orgasm neither from sex nor masturbation. Before the circumcision, whenever penis gets erected, the foreskin gets stretched, and sended a sexually turn on signal to the brain. I say this is erogenous trigger. Now that I don't have any foreskin that can be stretched, I have an erection but no erotic trigger to the brain anymore although I try to be erotic in the brain. Ridge band was very erogenous tissue and so as rest of the inner foreskin. I can no longer get erotic sensation from my penis. Only sensation i get from glans is not really erotic and I really have to get erotic stimulation from some kind of sources (like porn, naked woman etc) to get some sort of sexual
excitement. But without the foreskin, the sensation is totally different kind and no signal to brain like i used to get with foreskin stimulation. I really hope that scientists and doctors persue research on function of
foreskin and it's components and prove the importance of it. I am living very very difficult life since the operation because i can never obtain orgasm and erotic sensation which i used to have everytime and the problem is often a suicidal matter. The hope I have for living is the regenerative medicine will create some method to regenerate amputated foreskin and nerve endings to regain the sensation and function of the
circumcised penis. Is there any research on foreskin regeneration today anywhere in the world? I really hope that I can find some information on this topic. Please give me any information that you have in this matter. I really appreciate for your support.

	10-08-2002 23:29									#733
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I don't know where you're going with this, but I meant the stereotypical gay acting. The flapping of the wrists when talking, the lisp, the obsession with fashion, "the walk", etc.

Who's the bigot?

	10-08-2002 23:29									#734
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Tom... you know that person (who is ONE person, btw) has a psychological disorder after his foreskin was cut rather than a physical one .

If all cut people couldn't orgasm, there would be a lot less Jews and Muslims.

	10-08-2002 23:30									#735
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak What kind of degrees do you think your teachers have, dipshit?

Mostly mathematics and computer science...

At my college, we don't have liberal arts graduates teaching high level mathematics and computer science. Perhaps it was different when you ordered yours online.

quote: Who's the bigot?

Look at your comments in this thread, Sneak. You've made several in here.

	10-08-2002 23:32									#736
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and ancedotal evidence is not good enough for medical science, you often do need hard evidence.

pardon the pun.

	10-08-2002 23:34									#737
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I said I wouldn't accept a gay man's opinion on penile health over my OBGYN. That's not bigoted...that's rationale.
And my dislike of you has nothing to do with the fact that you like it in the no-no hole. It's because you're a spoiled, elitist brat who runs his mouth.
I'll be happy to pay the minimal postage to find out just how unlisted your address is, too. While I sit here in all my peasant grandeur, I'll enjoy thinking about you scrambling to cover your ass. Will he do it? Won't he? I have no reason not to.

	10-08-2002 23:41									#738
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak I said I wouldn't accept a gay man's opinion on penile health over my OBGYN. That's not bigoted...that's rationale.

An OBGYN doesn't necessarily know more about a boys' penis health.
And how you specifically stated how you don't appreciate a gay man's opinion, that's bigoted. If you meant to say you'd take the opinion of a medical professional (and apparently you don't care she's a WOMEN'S HEALTH specialist) over an ordinary man, that's different. But for some reason homosexuality had something to do with it.

quote: And my dislike of you has nothing to do with the fact that you like it in the no-no hole. It's because you're a spoiled, elitist brat who runs his mouth.

I'm spoiled because I pay for my own college and my parents won't buy me a car or pay for my insurance? Riiiiight...

quote: While I sit here in all my peasant grandeur, I'll enjoy thinking about you scrambling to cover your ass. Will he do it? Won't he? I have no reason not to.

I'm not covering my ass.

You are such a loser, honestly. I can't believe you have anyone here who ever backs you up.

I have more respect for Wiglaf than scum like you.

And if you do ever find out where they live, and send them mail -- I always check the mail on the way back from class before they even get home since it's on my way back from the bus stop.

If your intent is to try and scare me, all you've accomplished is making yourself look like a scumbag.

	10-08-2002 23:43									#739
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui It is a sign of a covenant with God for some people.

If this covenant is important, then it suggests something important is being sacrificed.

quote: This bullshit that it was cut off because it made sex too pleasurable is just that: bullshit.

A hundred years ago, when people were uptight about sex, doctors said circumcision WOULD reduce sexual pleasure. Today, when people are less uptight, doctors say circumcision WON'T reduce sexual pleasure. What does that tell you?

	10-08-2002 23:43									#740
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Yeah...that's odd, huh? You must have some flaw in your perspective, or that wouldn't be the case. I think most adults are infuriated by know-it-alls who brag on wealth and come off as if they are superior to everyone else, but that's just a wild guess.

	10-08-2002 23:45									#741
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak Yeah...that's odd, huh? You must have some flaw in your perspective, or that wouldn't be the case. I think most adults are infuriated by know-it-alls who brag on wealth and come off as if they are superior to everyone else, but that's just a wild guess.

Wow, weren't you the one bragging about your "potential six figure income" and how you're such a successful man that you married your wife in Vegas and had a bastard child?

Aren't you the one thinking you're scaring a kid by outting him to his parents?

Aren't you the one bragging about your multiple degrees?

You're the one that comes off as if you think you're superior to everyone, I'm only superior to your pathetic ass.

	10-08-2002 23:46									#742
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quote: And if you do ever find out where they live, and send them mail -- I always check the mail on the way back from class before they even get home since it's on my way back from the bus stop.

No, you're not scared at all, are you? I was thinking I'd just expand my research and send it directly to your father at work. Since he's such a high-tone engineer, it shouldn't be too tough.

	10-08-2002 23:47									#743
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both of you guys are quite out of line. i think it's quite obvious that tandee isn't paying attention to either of you anymore, and both of you seem tied up in a pissing match.

look:
ss thinks he did the right thing. maybe he did, the evidence is still somewhat contradictory. but it's not like his son, precious kid that he is, will ever know the difference. parents want to do the right things for their children, and if they make mistakes, so be it. nobody's the perfect parent.
asher obviously believes that the evidence is there to disprove and reason for circumcision. good for him. and so he's advising someone to his beliefs on whether it's needed or justified.

there's no need for a cockfight here, no need for ad hominem attacks.

this thread should have been put out of its misery a long time ago, once tandee came to her decision.

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Well, this has gotten rather dull for me. But thanks for playing, Asher.
Bottom line--I hold the cards, since, as you've pointed out, I've got nothing to lose, right?
But you on the other hand...so much promise and potential, living a lie that would just kill your upstanding father...now that's quite a bit to worry about.
Cya.

	10-08-2002 23:48									#745
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak No, you're not scared at all, are you? I was thinking I'd just expand my research and send it directly to your father at work. Since he's such a high-tone engineer, it shouldn't be too tough.

Yeah, high ranking management for an oil company in Calgary. Good luck, it's not like there's many oil companies in Calgary....

Seriously Sneak, you'd think even if you did send the email of a website that says something my parents would believe it?

Do you think they'd believe me when I was talking about how you were an online sexual predator who was pissed off because I refused to meet you -- or that some anonymous coward would send a message outting their son?

Honestly, Sneak, get a life.

	10-08-2002 23:49									#746
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui If all cut people couldn't orgasm, there would be a lot less Jews and Muslims.

There could be a lot fewer Jews and Muslims if there's a nuclear war in the Middle East!

	10-08-2002 23:50									#747
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quote: Originally posted by SuperSneak Well, this has gotten rather dull for me. But thanks for playing, Asher. Bottom line--I hold the cards, since, as you've pointed out, I've got nothing to lose, right?

You hold nothing, Sneak. You're a pathetic loser that only sunk even further in the eyes of many tonight by your threats to out a teenager to his parents because you felt your ego was hurt.

quote: But you on the other hand...so much promise and potential, living a lie that would just kill your upstanding father...now that's quite a bit to worry about. Cya.

I don't live a lie, I just haven't told them. There's a difference, and it's none of your concern what I do with my family.

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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed both of you guys are quite out of line. i think it's quite obvious that tandee isn't paying attention to either of you anymore, and both of you seem tied up in a pissing match.

This isn't about SS making a misinformed decision, it's about SS being an incredible assh0le of a pr1ck bigot with no dignity at all.

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quote: Originally posted by Tom31 If this covenant is important, then it suggests something important is being sacrificed. A hundred years ago, when people were uptight about sex, doctors said circumcision WOULD reduce sexual pleasure. Today, when people are less uptight, doctors say circumcision WON'T reduce sexual pleasure. What does that tell you?

Circumcision wasn't common among Christians in the 19th century. It became prevalent in the US during the 20th century when in-hospital birthing became dominant since medical recommendation favored circumcision.

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quote: If this covenant is important, then it suggests something important is being sacrificed.

Learn religion please and come back here. You love to speak out of your ass a whole lot without any knowledge. First thing to learn is that the sign of the covenant wasn't a sacrifice. Go on from there.