14-08-2002 15:05									#1
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[Did anyone else see the excerpts of Bush's speech about Corporate Responsibility on BBC's News at Ten last night? Talk about selective editing.]

It really made Bush look like a fool. Does he even realise that people outside of the US are going to be hearing what he is saying...translated "we are better than you".

Hardly a great way to gain sympathies for any future international action, such as treaties or the war on terrorism (strange how he doesn't seem to care about American funding to the IRA).

Bush needs to realise his speeches aren't just for the American people. (Or, alternatively, Cheney needs to realise this and adapt Bush's speeches accordingly).

If Bush gets re-elected, we will be seeing the densest bunch of American electorate for a long tiome.

	14-08-2002 15:08									#2
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Hey I thought you were the US's new b*tch these days?

	14-08-2002 15:10									#3
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Don't you agree with me?

	14-08-2002 15:13									#4
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Which part?

That you're the US's new b*tch?

Or that Bush is being an arsehole?

	14-08-2002 15:14									#5
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My initial post? Weigh in with some arguments of your own, don't let this get spammy (even if Ming is asleep).

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The permanent repitition of "best in the world" has made it to mean "well, it could be even crappier, like Boopswhana, you know?".

We non-USAers just have yet to get used to it.

	14-08-2002 15:18									#7
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I think you're a twit.

First, WTF does the IRA have to do with Bush jr.?

Second, I think Bush might be more concerned with a possible melt down of the American economic system than some 'maybe get involved allies' who are too chicken **** to carry through with the project.

Third, go ahead. Do it without the US! Please. I'm sick of hearing how 'bad' they are when they haul the freight for the rest of us and the lot of you are just chirping from the sidelines.

Now flame.

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mwha, i'm sure they are best at something, let him have his fun...

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No, didn't hear it, but we all have already formed our opinions regarding Bush Jr anyway.

Not really newsworthy is it.

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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy mwha, i'm sure they are best at something...

Electing idiots, for sure!

	14-08-2002 15:22									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Electing idiots, for sure!

Brits seem good at that.

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Name a country that actually elects decent leaders?

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I think you're a twit. First, WTF does the IRA have to do with Bush jr.? Second, I think Bush might be more concerned with a possible melt down of the American economic system than some 'maybe get involved allies' who are too chicken **** to carry through with the project. Third, go ahead. Do it without the US! Please. I'm sick of hearing how 'bad' they are when they haul the freight for the rest of us and the lot of you are just chirping from the sidelines. Now flame.

You mean we're too chikenshit to kill thousands of innocent civilians in revenge attacks? Or too chickenshit to pass acts no-one can oppose which strip citizens of basic rights?

You do realise that everyone outside America despises Bush? We haven't forgotten the 'elections' of 2000, even if you have

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Nope. Can't name one that would satisy the lot in the media, let alone around here.

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quote: First, WTF does the IRA have to do with Bush jr.?

Bush has not done very much to stop Irish-Americans funding terrorist groups back home.

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quote: Originally posted by red_jon You mean we're too chikenshit to kill thousands of innocent civilians in revenge attacks? Or too chickenshit to pass acts no-one can oppose which strip citizens of basic rights? You do realise that everyone outside America despises Bush? We haven't forgotten the 'elections' of 2000, even if you have

No. Your too chicken **** too have dealt with terrorism when it was blowing in your own front door.

And I'm not an American, dear.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Bush has not done very much to stop Irish-Americans funding terrorist groups back home.

What Irish terrorist groups. Are you on crack?

What bombs have gone off in London in the last 2 or 3 years?

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither What Irish terrorist groups. Are you on crack? What bombs have gone off in London in the last 2 or 3 years?

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither No. Your too chicken **** too have dealt with terrorism when it was blowing in your own front door. And I'm not an American, dear.

The centre of the city where I used to live was destroyed six years ago by the largest bomb ever to be detonated on the British mainland.

A bomb funded by Americans.

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's My initial post? Weigh in with some arguments of your own, don't let this get spammy (even if Ming is asleep).

Well, see the problem is...

We all know Bush is a moron who doesn't give a sh*t about the rest of the World.

Unfortunately the fact that he got elected in the 1st place means that a huge minority (Well at least the majority of voters didn't vote for him! ) of the US people also couldn't give a flying rat's arse either.

The attitude of notyoueither bears this out and proves your point, even if you might have provoked him a bit...

You only have to go to the US to realise that a significant proportion of the populace believes the same.

Personally I say we (the rest of the World) start looking after ourselves by insulating ourselves from USA's influence as much as possible...

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither No. Your too chicken **** too have dealt with terrorism when it was blowing in your own front door.

You do realise that killing civilians creates more terrorists not less. 'Terrorists' are just the new boogyman the Bush administration (and I say administration because we all know it's his daddy's friends who actually call the shots) use to push their own agenda.

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quote: Your too chicken **** too have dealt with terrorism when it was blowing in your own front door.

our front door?
name a recent terract in europe,
edit:which we're not dealing with

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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's The centre of the city where I used to live was destroyed six years ago by the largest bomb ever to be detonated on the British mainland. A bomb funded by Americans.

6 years ago. You mean when Clinton was president?! What does that have to do with Bush?

No **** that bomb was paid for in Boston. I agree.

The problem was that your guys didn't treat it the way it deserved to be treated. Not the Yankees problem.

You mew weakly like a kitten, they feel no need to override their own citizens. You declare a war, like you should have when your own capital was being bombed, they would have acted differently I'd wager.

Not everything is the Mercans fault. Some of us are just too ***** to know that.

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quote: Originally posted by red_jon You do realise that killing civilians creates more terrorists not less. 'Terrorists' are just the new boogyman the Bush administration (and I say administration because we all know it's his daddy's friends who actually call the shots) use to push their own agenda.

Created a lot of terrorists out of Englishmen it did, yup!

Bull sh*t!

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quote: 14-08-2002 03:05 "I know we are the greatest nation in the world" [Did anyone else see the excerpts of Bush's speech about Corporate Responsibility on BBC's News at Ten last night? Talk about selective editing.] It really made Bush look like a fool. Does he even realise that people outside of the US are going to be hearing what he is saying...translated "we are better than you".

American Presidents have been using that line for a very long time. Maybe even Teddy Roosevelt used it. Certainly Franklyn did. Did you just notice?

	14-08-2002 15:42									#27
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither 6 years ago. You mean when Clinton was president?! What does that have to do with Bush? No **** that bomb was paid for in Boston. I agree. The problem was that your guys didn't treat it the way it deserved to be treated. Not the Yankees problem. You mew weakly like a kitten, they feel no need to override their own citizens. You declare a war, like you should have when your own capital was being bombed, they would have acted differently I'd wager. Not everything is the Mercans fault. Some of us are just too ***** to know that.

So what? We should have declared war and bombed the **** out of Ireland, killing thousands in the process. Or are you suggesting we should have bombed Boston?

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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy quote: Your too chicken **** too have dealt with terrorism when it was blowing in your own front door. our front door? name a recent terract in europe, edit:which we're not dealing with

How about the ones that brought the British Empire, such as it was, to it's knees by blowing up random citizens in London? Is that Europe?

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Created a lot of terrorists out of Englishmen it did, yup! Bull sh*t!

When a sectarian killing is carried out in northern ireland then the other side retaliate and do the same, is this not terrorists creating terrorists

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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred American Presidents have been using that line for a very long time. Maybe even Teddy Roosevelt used it. Certainly Franklyn did. Did you just notice?

So it's not just the present-day bunch of Americans that are fools for false compliments from idiotic fools?