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Ethelred
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Originally posted by Boddington's
A missile is never fired by accident, jsut like a gun isn't.
You can't fire a gun at a wall, miss, and accidentally hit someone in the brain and not get done for murder. |
This is a war not some idiot firing off a gun to celebrate New Years Day(yes idiots do that). The only way you can claim a misfired missile in a war constitutes murder is if you also claim that it would have murder if it hit the right target.
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by TheStinger
If you fire a gun at a wall and were not aware of anybody else about and you couldn't reasonably be expexted to know anyone was there then you could not be convicted of murder if a ricochet killed someone |
Actually in the US you could be convicted of involuntary manslaughter. However that is not the same as firing a missle that is intended to kill an enemy in warfare.
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Prifysgol Caerdydd
Dec 1999
time: 15:21
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Originally posted by Ethelred
I thought I said it clearly. That red_jon is having fantasies in his claims that Britain doesn't do those things. |
Britain doesn't do those things (at least actively try not to!), what you're talking about happened 57 years ago. What you did say clearly is that we did resort to the same tactics the US did. I'm not proud of what the UK did on that fateful day - you don't seem to care!
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The US is not murdering civilians in Afganistan and neither is Britain. The US and Britain have intentionly killed civilians in the past. Neither are doing that now. |
I'm sure the UK and the US didn't intentionally kill civilians in Dresden - what are you saying!!?
Just because the UK and US dropped over 3,500 tons of High Explosive and Incendiary bombs on a city with many wooden building doesn't mean they were targeting the 600,000 civilians, wounded and allied POW's - no, they were aiming for the buildings. That those civilians were there was merely an unhappy coincidence...
I don't dispute the fact that US doesn't intentionally kill civilians - what I do dispute is whether they overly care if they happen to kill civilians...
There is far too much anecdotal evidence that the US really doesn't care if civilians happen to die when they're attacking military targets throughout WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Nicaragua, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Iraq, Serbia and Afghanistan just to name a few off the top of my head...
THAT is why the US doesn't want to be held accountable to international War Crimes Courts - they know they kill thousands of civilians needlessly, even if they don't specifically intend to!
In that regard, we are not like the US and don't intend to be - why is also probably a good reason as to why we've never had 4 passenger planes hijacked and rammed into several of our national landmarks...
Get with the program - nobody will like US in the rest of the World while it continues it's arrogant 'we are the greatest BS'...
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Ethelred
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Originally posted by Roland
While the US supreme court has been practically useless on constitutional rights for years now... |
Rubbish. The Supreme Court knocks down laws every single year.
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