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Since when does morality have anything to do with foreign policy. We have a republican administration you know.
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I was just thinking about Tom Clancy's heroic mujahadeen in The Cardinal of the Kremlin. The Archer would probably have been a Taliban leader--he was a Pashtun and well-educated (at least when it came to killing infidels).
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Clancy always threw a token heroic Russian in his books too.
It's ironic that we supported terriorists against the Soviet Union and now find ourselves targeted. Reap what you sow.
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Scio Me Nihil Scire
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Saint Marcus, you are bound to unleash the fury of HYPER-patriots, such as Chris62 and Slowwhand. |
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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Saint Marcus, Doesn't the article say we are investigating? |
Yes. A bit late though (since everyone knew the NA has a habit of doing stuff like this).
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What else can we do? |
End your support of the NA.
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Didn't you tell me that the Dutch government is investigating Sebrenicia? |
We already finished the investigation. And that massacre wasn't commited by our allies.
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The NA contained several vile elements, most particularly Doustum's gang, but of course they were there, had international recognized rights in the conflict, and were ready to fight, whereas foreign pacifist cowards would be entirely useless. |
So why didn't the US just fight it's own fight?
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The enemy of my enemy... |
And that makes it right? So in your opinion, warcrimes are alright as long as the "enemy" is the target?
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To be fair at the time they were after the guys who did Sept11 |
No they weren't. The NA was primarily fighting the Taliban, not Al Qaida.
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AECCP loves Democracy
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And that makes it right? So in your opinion, warcrimes are alright as long as the "enemy" is the target? |
If you can point out an armed resistance group in Afghanistan that existed prior to 9/11 with clean hands, I'll agree with your contention that we shouldn't have allied with them. However until you do that, I fail to see where we had any choice but to ally ourselves with NA forces.
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United States of America
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It's ironic that we supported terriorists against the Soviet Union and now find ourselves targeted. Reap what you sow. |
So those who resisted the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 — and the subsequent 10-year occupation — are termed terrorists because they received U.S. funding and, later, Stinger missiles?
But, no, it's not really ironic. We knew from the get-go that a good number of the elements resisting the Soviet invasion were religious zealots of the Islamic strain. It shouldn't be of any great surprise that their theological ire would eventually turn on the the U.S. and the rest of the outside world once the Soviet Union was expelled. After all, we're not much better in their eyes, being mostly secular and being governed by democratic/republican systems of government.
Our arrangement with the mujhadeen was one of necessity, not because we were genuinely good buddies who saw eye-to-eye. The real world seems to be replete with examples of this — the enemy of my enemy is my friend — and, well, that's life. Any change in that is going to require a shift in humanity's evolution, nothing less.
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Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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20-08-2002 20:02
Both are equally guilty of warcrimes and crimes against humanity, yet one is backed by the US and the other isn't. Really sad. So much for taking the moral highground in the war on terror. Fighting for human rights and Afghan freedom, my ass.
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