30-08-2002 21:57									#61
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Chess, risk, A&A.

I suck at the last two...but if I can get australia in risk, I'm happy

	30-08-2002 22:40									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Ming JUNTA... JUNTA... JUNTA!

Why am I not surprised?
The probably only game which gets a recommendation "over 18 years" in Germany without having a pornographic background?


Edit: Junta is listed. It involves bananas!

	30-08-2002 22:43									#63
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I wonder why Monotony is so popular. In my experience, there first two tours around the board are interesting, and then those two when people are about to die. Nothing more. Not enough fun to be a really good game.

	30-08-2002 22:49									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus Junta is listed. It involves bananas!

The trick to Junta is not being the first president. The first president may stash a ton of money in the bank (assuming he doesn't get assasinated on the way to the bank), but after he leaves office, everybody gangs up on him because he is the leader at that point.

Being president later in the game is usually key to success. And NEVER EVER trust the PM.

	30-08-2002 22:59									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident anyone remember Stratego?

The 0-7-4 iron triangle is nearly unbeatable, unless you're foolish enough to let the opponent's S take your 1.

Nah, never heard of it...

	30-08-2002 22:59									#66
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My favourite boardgame is Starfleet Battles (hi Chris ), a game that had come out before Axis and Allies. Speaking of which, the first version of A&A was published by a small company called Nova.

Another one is Grav Armor, a small (the game is physically small) game about futuristic motorised battles with a set of unusual rules.

Civilization is excellent, but I prefer the original.

Titan is an interesting strategy game but it takes a very long time to finish. At least 6-8 hours.

I see that nobody has mentioned Illuminati yet. Even though it is not a boardgame, but neither are Nuclear War and Naval War. All these are very silly yet fun games.

Oh, and Go, one of the really classic ones.

	30-08-2002 23:03									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I can't beleive that I am the only vote for diplomacy so far... Jon Miller

I LOVED the board version of Diplomacy and I have the PC version, but I can't even begin to figure out its f****ed up interface. If I did, I'd give you a decent game. Leave it to the French to put their navy at "Brest."

	30-08-2002 23:07									#68
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The computer version of A&A would be wonderful if the AI was better. As it stands, the only way to have a 50/50 game playing solitaire is to be the Axis, and just stock the borders of one of your powers with infantry, then go after the world with the other one.

	30-08-2002 23:50									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus I wonder why Monotony is so popular. In my experience, there first two tours around the board are interesting, and then those two when people are about to die. Nothing more. Not enough fun to be a really good game.

The real fun is in making gray-market deals with your opponents/allies. I played a game against a coupla friends recently in which friend A wound up with the Boardwalk/Park Place monopoly by luck (being the first to land on the two properties), and eventually all of the land was claimed without me or friend B holding a monopoly. So, I swapped properties with friend B, giving him a Red property (the land between Free Parking and the Yellows) in return for Baltic Avenue and three hundred dollars cash, giving him the Red monopoly and giving me the crappy Purple monopoly right next to Go. (This was my only chance at a monopoly, since through bad luck early on I owned a fat total of five properties, no two of which were from the same color). I was able to put hotels on my crappy monopoly right off the bat (it costs a mere $500 to upgrade both properties to hotels), meanwhile friends A and B were shelling out $200 and $150 respectively to upgrade their properties. They spend all of their cash to upgrade, even mortgaging a few properties in the process, and friend A winds up with three houses on Boardwalk and Park Place while friend B gets two houses on each of the Reds. Then the fun began. Friend A lands on Baltic, forcing her to mortgage some more property and still leaving her strapped for cash, but she doesn't particularly mind since I'm going to be going through her Boardwalk/Park Place combo in two turns, which costs about $1200 to land on at this point. Here's where the illicit deals make the game fun. I lend friend B a helluva lot of cash (what am I going to spend cash on? My monopoly cost to expand) in return for two railroads and one "free rent" agreement (I get to land on his monopoly once without having to pay), allowing him to upgrade his monopoly to hotels. Friend A lands on his monopoly the turn before I have to go through hers, forcing her to sell all of her houses in order to foot the bill (which lets friend B pay me back the cash I'm owed, too). I land on Boardwalk the next turn, but guess what, it's mortgaged now.

Anyway, to make a long story slightly less long, I wound up winning the game with a Baltic/Mediterranean Avenue monopoly, pitted against somebody with a Boardwalk/Park Place monopoly and somebody with the Reds monopoly, all thanks to the gray market. Wutang.

	31-08-2002 01:05									#70
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Civilization (and Advanced), definetely one of my favorites. Grain is where it's at! Though the Renaissance version isn't very good.

Stratego, though I'm not very good at it.

British Rails, pretty self explanatory as to what this game is.

And Cathedral, this game where you have different pieces that you try and place on a board, against an opponent. The point of the game is to have more pieces on the borad then your opponent does at the end of the game. There is variety in the game because the Cathedral is placed in a different position each game. Damn, wish I still had all the pieces to that one.

Edit: Thought of a way to describe the game! It's like Tetris with an enemy, and played on a flat surface. Oh and there's this big cathedral in the way.

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	31-08-2002 01:07									#71
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Ok, now.....wtf is Stratego for us uninformed peoples

	31-08-2002 01:16									#72
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quote: Ok, now.....wtf is Stratego for us uninformed peoples

If I don't confuse it with another game, it is roughly like chess, only that the gaming board is a bit fancier and you don't see the type of the enemy's units unless you attack them. There are also special units like bombs and spies.

	31-08-2002 02:04									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Another favorite, though too little known to be a classic I suppose, is MB's Hotels. Anyone know it?

I do! I got it for Christmas when I was a kid. In fact, I think it's still at my parents' house someplace, cardboard hotels and all.

	31-08-2002 02:04									#74
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Ah...diplomacy...the grand game

Sure is a timekiller though.

quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I see that nobody has mentioned Illuminati yet. Even though it is not a boardgame, but neither are Nuclear War and Naval War. All these are very silly yet fun games. Oh, and Go, one of the really classic ones.

Are you referring to the boardgame or the cardgame?

	31-08-2002 02:15									#75
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Pretending to be British is my job

	31-08-2002 02:17									#76
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Anybody remember this title by TSR? Kind of an Axis & Allies, Fortress America, etc. clone.

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	31-08-2002 02:36									#77
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chess, risk, a&a (both original and pacific...i don't have europe yet, i hope to get it soon)

	31-08-2002 02:54									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior I'm 14 and three months

1450 at that age is pretty damned good.

	31-08-2002 03:06									#79
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Cluedo, when played in Narrative mode.

	31-08-2002 03:13									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov "Conquest of the Empire" I think Roman Empire split among various generals, have to fight for the Imperial title. It was actually the first one after A&A, I believe.

I do remember it, I just could never find it!

	31-08-2002 04:56									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Al'Kimiya Advanced Civilization (I want gold! Does anyone have gold? Salt for gold, gold damnit!)

when I said civilization I included advanced with it (I love that game, and ASL and others...)

Jon Miller

	31-08-2002 05:02									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Civilization (and Advanced), definetely one of my favorites. Grain is where it's at! Though the Renaissance version isn't very good.

I dislike grain

there is always soemone who thinks that if youa re goinfg for grain that you have famine and so does not trade theres

I like the other 4 though (and cloth, and bronze and resin)

Jon Miller

	31-08-2002 05:04									#83
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oh, and the way to play ASL online (And in real time) is through VASL

look it up

Jon Miller

	31-08-2002 06:22									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I dislike grain there is always soemone who thinks that if youa re goinfg for grain that you have famine and so does not trade theres I like the other 4 though (and cloth, and bronze and resin) Jon Miller

Except that it's the most valuable monopoly in the game. I trade with people regardless of calamities for the most part, hoping that if I can earn enough, I can weather them.

	31-08-2002 06:31									#85
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I'm going to a boardgames convention this weekend where I'll definitely play Scrabble, probably Backgammon and possibly Monopoly. Plus a bunch of games no one ever heard of.

I play chess once in a great while. In high school (MANY years ago) I was captain of the team, but I'm no longer as good as I was then.

I remember Careers, too. Great game. I saw a newer version of it some time ago, and noticed they'd made some changes. The career path that was Uranium Prospecting when I was a kid is now Sports.

	31-08-2002 09:32									#86
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CapTVK,

All the games you quoted from my post are card games, except for Go.

	31-08-2002 09:39									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller oh, and the way to play ASL online (And in real time) is through VASL look it up Jon Miller

How do I look it up?

Do you need the charts, boards and counters or is everything online?

	31-08-2002 10:52									#88
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you need the rules (and with them the charts)

the boards and counters are online (actually you need the scenarios also, but often if your opponent has the scenario it is good enough)

do a seach (or I beleive that there is a connection from the advancedsquadleader page at MMP)

Jon Miller

	31-08-2002 10:55									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Except that it's the most valuable monopoly in the game. I trade with people regardless of calamities for the most part, hoping that if I can earn enough, I can weather them.

so do I, but others play differently, and I can never get all the grain (And others have the same problem)

Jon Miller

	31-08-2002 15:17									#90
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I have never played with Advanced Civilization, but the games I have played the players are rather cooperative during trading. If you don't, everybody gets screwed, simple as that.