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The Bloody Baro
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I'm probalby going to get the PS2 but I wantted first hand expericence from you guys. Please vote and post why. Thanks.
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David Floyd
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The bottom of a large bottle of beer
Jan 1970
time: 05:22
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I don't like game consoles - I either play board games or computer games.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:22
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Here's my completely unbiased ( ) opinion:
1. Xbox (have one and 11 games -- my favorite game consoles so far since the SNES)
2. Gamecube (have one and 2 games, 1 more game [Mario] to be delivered as soon as Canada Post gets back to work
3. PS2 (had one, sold it)
My reasons for liking Xbox are because it's the most capable hardware by a good margin, has a built in harddrive (no fuss with memory cards), every game outputs Dolby Digital 5.1 (some support the true surround better than others though), every game outputs in progressive scan (excellent for HDTV owners), and it's got 64MB of RAM with 6:1 texture compression. Gamecube has 24MB of RAM with 6:1 texture compression and PS2 has 32MB of RAM with no texture compression. That's why PS2 games look like ass and GCN/Xbox look better.  Xbox has has Xbox Live (the idea of a unified buddy list between all games, across-game stats tracking, mandatory support for voice communication in the game with the headset, etc completely trashes Sony's/Nintendo's plan).
The only reason I have (and can see a reason) for owning a Gamecube is if you're an oldschool Nintendo fan. I grew up on Nintendo consoles so eventually I had to get one. 
The PS2 isn't necessarily a bad buy, there's tons of good games for it, it's just that it's not a very forward looking console. It's pretty much at its limits now for what it can do, and the other systems aren't (and they already look and feel much better). The PS2 is a ripoff at its current pricepoint, I wouldn't be caught dead giving Sony (who happens to be more evil than MS  ) $199US for a piece of hardware valued at $150US. The Xbox is valued at something like $325US...
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:22
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I'm not going to count games that come out on multiple platforms, because 9 times out of 10 they're better on Xbox anyway. These are only Xbox exclusive games. (Taken from a webpage summary I did a couple weeks ago)
SegaGT 2002
"GT3 killer", 125+ fully licensed cars, billions of possible combinations in the garage, tons of tracks, great graphics and sound, free online addition in early 2003.
Quantum Redshift
Made by the people who made the original Wipeout games, only better.
Blinx: The Timesweeper
One of those games only possible with a harddrive. It keeps track of everything you, you can rewind, fast forward, pause, record, etc. all in game. Very nice and very unique twist on platforming that's got tons of people excited. Hard to explain, good preview is here: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/360/360199p1.html
Deathrow
Extreme sports taken to a new frantic (and gorey) levels. You gotta love sports games rated M. Preview: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/358/358097p1.html
ToeJam and Earl III
What can I say? I was a complete addict to I and II on Genesis a long time ago. TJ&E1 is definitely a classic, one of my favorite games of all times. TJ&E3 has been in development for nearly three years now and has been described as "TJ&E1 on steroids" by the developer. This will definitely be a major sleeper hit. Support for Xbox Live is a major unexpected plus.
Unreal Championship
Based on the upcoming Unreal Tournament 2003 engine, with more gameplay modes and no cheating. What's not to like?
Brute Force
Digital Anvil (headed by Chris Roberts of Wing Commander fame) has been developing this game now for a long time. Tactical sci-fi shooter. Very cool.
Absolutely gorgeous graphics.
MechAssault
Think MechWarrior, arcade-style, and multiplayer (singleplayer mode too). With a twist: Everything in the environment is destructable. One major tactic in the game is to shoot out buildings next to other players, and the buildings crumble and hurt the other players. Glass shatters, debris falls, etc. Spectacular.
Psychonauts
Tim Schafer. Platformer. 'nuff said.
Project Ego (or Fable as it's supposedly called now)
Peter Molyneaux's satellite company's game. It's an RPG unlike we've ever seen before. You develop yourself as you go, your appearance changes depending on what you do. People may even start mimicking you around the villages to try to be like you. The scope of this game is incredible, and it's got tons of people waiting patiently for it (many people claimed to have gotten an Xbox soley for it)
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Continuation of the classic Panzer Dragoon series from the Sega Saturn. Cult classic reborn with state of the art graphics and gameplay enhancements.
Midtown Madness 3
Anyone who's played 1 & 2 knows why this is such a big deal. It's also supporting Xbox Live.
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
People who've played the PC Crimson Skies games also know what I'm talking about.
Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball
Last but definitely not least. Okay, I admit I put this pic in just because I love it.
And much more. Further off we've got stuff Halo 2 (with Xbox Live support for cooperative and competive online play, along with a much better graphics engine and much more gameplay). It's a very good time to be a gamer.
Last edited by Asher on 02-09-2002 at 03:53
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:22
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And for those into Bioware's games (Buldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, MDK2, etc), Bioware has signed a deal with MS to make a game exclusively to Xbox. It's an original game (no licensing) and won't even be available on the PC.
Similarly, Tremor Entertainment (formed of ex-Blizzard employees who worked on Warcraft II, Starcraft, Diablo, etc) have also been signed to create exclusive Xbox content.
There's tons of great stuff coming out, a lot of it still unannounced.
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devilmunchkin
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first circle of the inferno
Jul 2001
time: 05:22
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ok..i'm say ps2..but here's why:
you have a much greater range of games to play. ps2 alone has a greater variety than game cube or xbox AND you also can still play your fav ps1 games. the dvd is a plus too ....
don't get a game cube...blah! kiddie games (sans eternal darkness but one game isn't reason enough to purchase a whole consol)
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Saint Marcus
name three X-Box PAL games worth buying. And don't count Halo, cause shooters are for PCs. I'm talking about "typical" console games. RPGs, fighting, racing and soccer games. |
I've done this before with you, you're one of those people who no matter what I'd name you'd claim it's not better. Why bother?
There's no better Rally Racer than Rallisport Challenge, there's no better Moto racer than MotoGP, there's no better console FPS than Halo (you're missing out if you think they're only for PC -- coop Halo is awesome, but oh well), and fighters haven't changed much in years.
Quite frankly I think they're all boring as hell, and I also hate FFX. If you're into the queer "hold your hand" turn-based RPGs like FFX, then you'd be better off with the PS2. Personally I like playing games, and FFX comes off more of a "choose your own adventure" movie to me.
I'll ask you this though, are there any PS2 PAL games which beat: Halo, Rallisport Challenge, Project Gotham Racing (it's NOT a racer like GT3, and if you think it is you've never played it), MotoGP, JSRF, Morrowind, World Series Baseball?
I'll help you out in advance and answer "no".
There are some games for the PS2 that the Xbox doesn't have something better yet (Crimson Sea has a huge budget and is the same style of game as FFX by some Japanese developer, which comes out before the end of the year, but I don't think it'll be able to compete with Square). The PS2 is already nearly two and a half years old, so it kinda figures that they've got a lot of games out there for people to try.
My beef is most of the games suck. And you have no idea how bad a PS2 looks hooked up to a bigscreen HDTV.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:22
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This might interest some of you: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/front_index.php
quote:
RUMOUR WHIRLWIND AS MICROSOFT MOVES ON RARE
And before you say, "But it was supposed to be Activision," word is that there simply wasn't enough cash in the bank: full story inside
17:18 UK sources indicated today that the long-rumoured Microsoft take-over move on Rare may be imminent. Insiders have now set a price of £350 million for the developer, which at the moment is owned by Nintendo to the tune of 49 percent of its stock.
Rare refused to comment on the speculation today.
The news is looking likely to be a jigsaw piece that slots in nicely to make a final, Rare-shaped picture. Talk is heating up today regarding an apparently huge announcement at Microsoft's X02 event in Seville later this month, which will be specifically software related. Rumour has been constant recently regarding the next Perfect Dark game heading exclusively to Xbox. See what we mean?
More. Chatter of the Stamper brothers, founders of the developer, looking to sell up has been circulating for more than a year. It's now widely well known that Activision looked seriously at buying the outfit earlier this year, but British sources this morning hinted that Rare was simply too rich for the publisher's blood.
Microsoft is said to have held a meeting recently with Rare in a hotel near Twycross, the developer's base. Exactly the same talk emerged when Activision was looking over the company's book.
Even more. Rare appears to have cancelled two projects recently, removing the links to the games from the company's website. "It's simply due to updating the site," said Rare by way of explanation last month. Still "updating" then, are you boys? Apparently so.
"There's one guy running the website here," said a Rare employee today. "He's got fairly minimal support, so he's doing all of that at the same time as doing all the instruction books."
The games are still under development, the source added. Current speculation suggests the titles are being doctored to remove Donkey Kong, a Nintendo property, from the games.
Obviously, there's more. When questioned on the state of Nintendo's relationship with Rare at E3 this year, Nintendo heavyweights would only say that the only Rare game being shown for GameCube was Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur planet because that was the only title coming out in this financial year. Then they said refused to say anything else. We suggest you look carefully at the huge gaps between these lines.
While Microsoft remained unavailable for comment today, don't expect this to go away. As soon as we hear more, we'll let you know." |
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01-09-2002 21:24
Super Mario Sunshine got an 8.0 from Gamespot. 
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