07-09-2002 16:43									#1
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It's very funny actually
But why is it?

Is it because you have been taught that France screws you over every time it can?

	07-09-2002 16:48									#2
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I thought everyone was anti-French, not just the Americans.

	07-09-2002 16:51									#3
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I'm not American.

	07-09-2002 16:51									#4
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Not untill they meet them

	07-09-2002 16:54									#5
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I thought that noone really liked the english myself.

About english not liking french it can be explained through history. Maybe some day Greeks and Turks will simply make fun of eachother like english and french do and not be so serious about it.

But about americans it's like an addiction not to like the french

	07-09-2002 16:58									#6
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I thought that noone really liked the english myself.

No, that's just you.

	07-09-2002 17:00									#7
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I'm just a product of my environment (which is Europe)

	07-09-2002 17:02									#8
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Must be your particular part. Over in my region of the Europe (the English part), the English people are well-liked.

	07-09-2002 17:05									#9
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Nope. Europe at large I wasn't brought up in Greece

It's alright though I bet in the french forums it is the same in reverse

	07-09-2002 17:08									#10
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It started in the trenches, the soldiers didn't know why they where fighting the war and looked for someone to blame. France, being who they where liberating, was a popular target. Same thing happened in WW2.

	07-09-2002 17:10									#11
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Hmm I've heard that before. I think that today's France policies have something to do about it too though?

	07-09-2002 17:12									#12
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Hmm I've heard that before. I think that today's France policies have something to do about it too though?

Like americans even know what's going on outside their border.

	07-09-2002 17:13									#13
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I thought that noone really liked the english myself. About english not liking french it can be explained through history. Maybe some day Greeks and Turks will simply make fun of eachother like english and french do and not be so serious about it. But about americans it's like an addiction not to like the french

You have half the answer right there. The English didn't like the French. Even when the Revolutionaries allied with France that dislike must have still been present. Then when France was going bankrupt from the cost of their war with England and their aid to the Revolution in America they started trying to get money from the US resulting in the notorius XYZ Affair.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0852911.html

Plus I think Americans have a hard time understanding that the French sometimes have very different interests than the US does. Then again I think the French sometimes work so hard at having independent interests they sometimes forget that our interests and their interests really do coincide every so often so they go against the US on intertia even when it would be best to not do so.

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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Like americans even know what's going on outside their border.

Maybe not. But the politicians and media do and they can shape up public opinion.

	07-09-2002 17:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I'm just a product of my environment (which is Europe)

Hmm, which do you think is closer to France and Germany - Britain or Greece?

	07-09-2002 17:38									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Ethelred Plus I think Americans have a hard time understanding that the French sometimes have very different interests than the US does. Then again I think the French sometimes work so hard at having independent interests they sometimes forget that our interests and their interests really do coincide every so often so they go against the US on intertia even when it would be best to not do so.

I'ts like their policies in the Middle East. IF you care to go beneath the rhetorics you'd see that both the US and France (and other countries) are pushing aggresively for their interests without regard for whom they hurt and they "dress them up" with rhetorics about humanitarianism etc etc.

For France its even more striking when you find out because it is supposed to be the bastion of human rights.

	07-09-2002 17:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Hmm, which do you think is closer to France and Germany - Britain or Greece?

And which is closer to Britain?

	07-09-2002 17:46									#18
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One name: deGaulle...

	07-09-2002 17:52									#19
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The French kicked American forces out in 1966. The move was expensive and disruptive, but Vietnam was happening at the same time, so it was under-reported.

	07-09-2002 17:56									#20
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Did the french fought and kicked americans out? Where did that happen exactly?

	07-09-2002 18:01									#21
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I think people would have noticed if there was a fight between France and the US.

He may be referring to when France quit NATO.

	07-09-2002 18:03									#22
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I have nothing against French people, they just piss me off. (South Park joke)

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My father was treated like a son by a french family during ww2. He said that the overall resentment against Americans by France had to do with us bombing their country to oust Hitler's forces. The German army left but the french remained in their towns and got bombed even after being warned of the invasion by leaflets. Some Americans have responded to the resentment so now each side hates the other. Of course many people here do not hate the french and I certainly have nothing against them.

	07-09-2002 19:14									#24
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My family came from France and my grandfather got his nose blown off by the Germans. So I grew up hating the Germans. I do partake in French bashing sometimes since they do ocassionally act like pompous rat f***'s.

	07-09-2002 19:18									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Like americans even know what's going on outside their border.

Well, I suppose then we will just have to bring everything inside our borders.

	07-09-2002 19:24									#26
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Ah, nothing like the sounds of trolls firing up flamethrowers.

Americans have nothing against France. It's a great country.

It's just that we have unrelenting hatred for the french people. Comes from being an english colony. When they kneel before their rightful sovereign, we'll reconsider.

	07-09-2002 19:28									#27
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Why shouldn't we be anti-french? They go out of thier way to be anti-american.

	07-09-2002 19:29									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson Must be your particular part. Over in my region of the Europe (the English part), the English people are well-liked.

Sad but true... the english people are very liked... and damn, I'm tired of them (The english people)...

	07-09-2002 19:50									#29
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ever heard about Nationalism? It "binds the populace together"

	07-09-2002 20:00									#30
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Nationalism = evil