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Military jets have resumed round-the-clock patrols over New York and Washington as the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks approaches.
The flights resumed Friday, said Lt. Col. Cathy Abbott, a Pentagon spokeswoman.
Officials hadn't planned on starting the patrols again until next week's 9/11 anniversary, reports CBS News correspondent Jim Stewart. They’ll continue indefinitely.
But Stewart says the early resumption may be related to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies detecting increased "chatter" or communications among known al Qaeda operatives.
One senior official described the chatter to Stewart as "terrorist electronic and internet intercepts," some of which are in the form of morale boosting messages such as, "Stay tuned. Good news is on the way."
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Jon your an idiot. You assume the administration is behind the attacks or somthing?
moron..
I was right in the other thread. Go back to your tarpit loser
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leftover_crack
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"I think this says absolutely everything "
So you agree? Than its settled?
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Gatekeeper
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United States of America
Feb 2000
time: 23:22
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red_jon:
Perhaps you don't understand it, but with your suggestions that Sept. 11, 2001, wasn't all what it appeared to be ... you are *diminishing* the 3,000 plus lives of those who died on that day. Hence the response from some who would love nothing more than to see another nation experience such a shocking and deadly terrorist attack. Perhaps then, goes the reasoning, would other folks realize just how much those lives are missed.
Maybe if Britain had to witness the destruction of Buckingham Palace, things would be different, sympathy-wise. Maybe if France had to see the Eiffel Tower come crashing down on thousands of innocents would their blood freeze with horror, shock, and then begin to boil with anger. Maybe if German's rebuilt Reichstag (I think that's what it's called) were blown up, with many of that nation's leaders within, would they look at things differently. Maybe if ... well, you see, it can go on and on.
I can imagine people have wished ill upon America many times in the past, because maybe then they would do something about a certain problem here or there somewhere in the world. Well, it happened on Sept. 11, 2001. Maybe Europe is next.
Gatekeeper
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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
time: 00:22
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quote:
Originally posted by UberKruX
i hate people who could even fathom the administration being behind the attacks.
sure, they "profitted" from them in one way or another, i'll concdeed that.
but i'll never believe anyone
would bring that upon their own people.
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While not the same scale, it would not be without historical precedent for a government to let their people be killed to further a political goal. For instance, I believe there is pretty compelling circumstantial evidence that the British admiralty set up the Lusitania to be sunk to help draw the U.S. into WWI. And David Floyd would take that a step further and say Wilson was in on it.
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Maybe if Britain had to witness the destruction of Buckingham Palace, things would be different, sympathy-wise. Maybe if France had to see the Eiffel Tower come crashing down on thousands of innocents would their blood freeze with horror, shock, and then begin to boil with anger. Maybe if German's rebuilt Reichstag (I think that's what it's called) were blown up, with many of that nation's leaders within, would they look at things differently. Maybe if ... well, you see, it can go on and on. |
I doubt it. I watched the towers' destruction from my office window, and my personal philosophy keeps me more akin to the European mainstream sentiment that the drumbeat for war on Iraq is absurd and that the "War on Terrorism," while legitimate in its own right, is being cynically used by this administration to institute pet policies and encroach on cherished liberties.
I suppose it is simply a difference of perspective, not necessarily having that one experience. Keep in mind that Europe has been subject to violent terrorism long before we were, and has also witness the devastation of the continent through war unlike anything we have experienced.
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Ninot
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Centre Bell
Nov 2001
time: 00:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Ming
The next person that continues "wishing" death on others or continues this petty little argument is restricted...
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ok, so i can wish death on myself and get away, right?
back on topic:
Sadly, i think Al Qaeda would only consider USA, and possible Israel as viable targets. and of the two, i think they would choose USA, solely because there are bigger things to hit.
but, the question lies in... what will they hit, a populous target, or a symbolic target?
if Ossama was supposedly happy with only nocking a few floors off the towers, and wasnt wishing them to fall exactly, what must he be thinking for other targets?
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Gatekeeper
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United States of America
Feb 2000
time: 23:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I suppose it is simply a difference of perspective, not necessarily having that one experience. Keep in mind that Europe has been subject to violent terrorism long before we were, and has also witness the devastation of the continent through war unlike anything we have experienced. |
The folks who frequent Apolyton are, generally, *not* familiar with the ravages of war.
We mostly see it through the history books and whatnot. Just because my grandfather saw the horror of World War II doesn't make me any *wiser* in that regard because nothing can replace actually being there, experiencing it. History books and stories are but windows into a dark era. The older generations in Europe — i.e. those still alive from the WW I and WW II eras — are, indeed, quite familiar with war. But not us folks born in the 1960s and 1970s and beyond (unless you're a veteran who saw action). So whenever I hear that Europeans are more world-wise than anyone in America, I take it with a grain of salt. Just because my grandparents knew what war was doesn't make *me* a fount of wisdom in regards to war. I would have to *experience* it for myself to truly know how bad war can be. As it is now, I've only seen war through books, magazines, television, movies and whatnot.
Furthermore, America has most certainly experienced the devastation of war. Specifically, a civil war. But I suppose since the last war that devastated significant parts our homeland took place from 1861-65 makes it less relevant than 1914-18 and 1939-45, eh?
Gatekeeper
(Tsk, tsk, Boris. You got yourself banned ... now I'll have to wait for your reply, if any, is forthcoming.  )
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08-09-2002 05:29
Britian is your ally and you wish death and destruction upon them. Yup, with friends like these....
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